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Mehliveat #1 Posted 07 September 2015 - 11:08 AM

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http://wotblitz.asia/en/news/pc-browser/News/update-21-release-date/

 

Wow.  ROF nerfed to 3.6 rounds per minute from 4.6.  While I have never been a fan of the tank, as I never quite got a handle on it.  But I never thought it was OP going up against it.  Yes, its a solid tank, but its sides and rear are butter, and the lower glacis is easy pen as well.  I can understand the previous nerfs in dispersion values and so on, minor tweaks to reduce its effectiveness.  But such a drastic drop in DPM?

 

Also, the T40 got a similar treatment as well.  The derp reload got nerfed bad as well.



SpawnIscariot #2 Posted 07 September 2015 - 11:38 AM

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So, last nerf they increased the gun's dispersion, which was okay. It just meant you needed to get up closer to be effective, but they also decreased its traverse by nearly 20% which meant getting closer left you open to exposing your thin rear and side armour by being circled or flanked.

 

Now the already slow reload becomes glacial.

 

Well driven, the Hetzer with derp was an effective tank that was a lot of fun to get out of the garage in.

 

Looks like its going to be just another sniping TD, albeit one with good frontal armour.

 

No fun in that...


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Cracker_Z #3 Posted 07 September 2015 - 12:11 PM

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When SerB finds out there is actually a decent tank in German tech tree. It gets nerfed in a blink. Meanwhile Russian tanks are getting buff buff and buff for no apparent reason, then gets nerf after getting several buffs to justify  there are not biased towards  anything. 

 

 When people complain about some non-Russian tank being underpowered , We get........

 

 

 



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View PostCracker_Z, on 07 September 2015 - 08:11 PM, said:

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Dark_Exile_ #5 Posted 07 September 2015 - 12:18 PM

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View PostCracker_Z, on 07 September 2015 - 10:11 PM, said:

When SerB finds out there is actually a decent tank in German tech tree. It gets nerfed in a blink. Meanwhile Russian tanks are getting buff buff and buff for no apparent reason, then gets nerf after getting several buffs to justify  there are not biased towards  anything. 

 

 When people complain about some non-Russian tank being underpowered , We get........

 

 

 

 

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Dark_Exile_ #6 Posted 07 September 2015 - 12:20 PM

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Stop buffing Russian?


Edited by ClanBassadoR, 07 September 2015 - 12:26 PM.

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LilGeneral #7 Posted 07 September 2015 - 01:16 PM

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They nerfed my favorite tier 4? No more tier 4 for me.

 

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abcrl123 #8 Posted 07 September 2015 - 01:28 PM

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Ah well they already nerfed that stuh a few times til i don't play it cept when bored. So guess just stick with the 75mm if need be. Its way faster anyway and more accurate just no Boom factor.  
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charade_ #9 Posted 08 September 2015 - 01:18 AM

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I had such fun with it using that gun and now... :unsure: guess I'll sell it

CarvinMarvin #10 Posted 08 September 2015 - 02:42 AM

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Bwah hah ha. Now my B2 shall be invincible. :justwait::playing:

 

 

But in all honesty, I'm pretty fine with the changes, even though the Hetzer is on my stat-redemption list. The thing still has wicked traverse even after the Nerf (because let's face it, those who club with it have the traverse boosted by crew skills), it is still fully capable of one-shotting people with that howitzer, still doesn't have to face tier 6 tanks, and it still has that angled armour. So it shoots a bit less frequently? Well maybe it's drivers will have to treat it less as a tier 4 T18 and more like a real TD.


 

I'm even fine with the Cruiser nerfs (and I use the IV for crew skills, so am well versed to clubbing in it), both of them are brutal in their tiers, and they still will be, but players will just need to tweak their playstyle slightly to account for the changes.


 

 


 


Pimp_Daddy_XR #11 Posted 08 September 2015 - 02:54 AM

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This is why i dislike constant nerf/buffs.

 

It gives less consistency to vehicles. The Hetzer of old was an iOS Snow Leopard compared to the Windows Vista we get now.


 

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View PostPimp_Daddy_XR, on 08 September 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

This is why i dislike constant nerf/buffs.

 

It gives less consistency to vehicles. The Hetzer of old was an iOS Snow Leopard compared to the Windows Vista we get now.

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View PostCarvinMarvin, on 08 September 2015 - 12:42 PM, said:

Bwah hah ha. Now my B2 shall be invincible. :justwait::playing:

 

 

But in all honesty, I'm pretty fine with the changes, even though the Hetzer is on my stat-redemption list. The thing still has wicked traverse even after the Nerf (because let's face it, those who club with it have the traverse boosted by crew skills), it is still fully capable of one-shotting people with that howitzer, still doesn't have to face tier 6 tanks, and it still has that angled armour. So it shoots a bit less frequently? Well maybe it's drivers will have to treat it less as a tier 4 T18 and more like a real TD.


 

I'm even fine with the Cruiser nerfs (and I use the IV for crew skills, so am well versed to clubbing in it), both of them are brutal in their tiers, and they still will be, but players will just need to tweak their playstyle slightly to account for the changes.

 

While its still an alright tank, I just think the nerf is just over the top.  A 20% decrease in DPM?  Perhaps this is to compensate for the buffs to the Stug, JPz4 and JP?  All three had a pretty decent DPM buff recently.

 

The nerfs to the Cruisers seems alright though.  The 3's smaller clip reduces the burst damage, but with the randomess of the lower tiers, a faster clip reload might actually be a good thing.  The 4's reload probably won't be felt much, the tank's speed and manoeuvrability can ensure it stays in cover during the reload.

 

Speaking of lower tier nerfs.... Pz.4A any one?  Any tier 3 tank with a 700+ average dmg seriously needs a look.  Spam HE against tier 2/3s at 200 alpha and 6 rounds/minute, and HEAT against 4s.  Plus great mobility, 10 degree depression and big health pool.............  Perhaps I shouldn't be giving WG ideas.



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View PostMehliveat, on 08 September 2015 - 04:04 PM, said:

 

While its still an alright tank, I just think the nerf is just over the top.  A 20% decrease in DPM?  Perhaps this is to compensate for the buffs to the Stug, JPz4 and JP?  All three had a pretty decent DPM buff recently.

 

The nerfs to the Cruisers seems alright though.  The 3's smaller clip reduces the burst damage, but with the randomess of the lower tiers, a faster clip reload might actually be a good thing.  The 4's reload probably won't be felt much, the tank's speed and manoeuvrability can ensure it stays in cover during the reload.

 

Speaking of lower tier nerfs.... Pz.4A any one?  Any tier 3 tank with a 700+ average dmg seriously needs a look.  Spam HE against tier 2/3s at 200 alpha and 6 rounds/minute, and HEAT against 4s.  Plus great mobility, 10 degree depression and big health pool.............  Perhaps I shouldn't be giving WG ideas.

Pz. IV A is OP as well, don't let WG know ;)


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View PostClanBassadoR, on 08 September 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

Pz. IV A is OP as well, don't let WG know ;)

 

Although I have only play 6 battles in PZ4A, I really like this tank's combination of speed, protection, and damage output!!!

 

Maybe we need to stop commenting on how good German tanks are, I really don't want WG to nerf more German tanks!!!

 

 


 

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Might change to the 75 mm, but if it goes below 60% win rate for me, I'll sell it. I do significantly better in the DW2. I play the hetzer only to see if I can improve enough in it to be as good as I am in the DW2.
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Mehliveat #17 Posted 09 September 2015 - 05:00 AM

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Spoke too soon.

 

Pz4A just got a big nerf.

 

HE pen is now only 20!

 

 

 

Edit:

 

The Hertzer's derp pen is now only 25!


Edited by Mehliveat, 09 September 2015 - 05:01 AM.


JeanneThiccWaifu #18 Posted 09 September 2015 - 05:55 AM

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Sergey is seriously Hate Everything that had German on it

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ExperimentalMIRV #19 Posted 09 September 2015 - 11:20 AM

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naaaa still got 7 kills in it FIRST RASINEI

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Wow.. Sold my Hetzer, sucks after the NERF

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