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Jaydhani_42 #1 Posted 24 August 2021 - 01:24 PM

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Bad armor bad camouflage bad hull rotation speed bad turret rotation speed bad terrain resistance bad engine horsepower bad tank size bad turret placement bad reload time bad aiming time... and it highest penetration shell which is the AP shell has a joke amount of penetration (in a bad way) compared to other tank premium ammo such as heat or apcr.

 

Fv215b 183 gun is supposed to be its strength , but it dispersion is too inaccurate to be good . The gun is neither good at long ,medium,nor short range , it is too inaccurate, easily bullied and countered by enemy tank , even myself found it easy to counter enemy death star. The only thing i found preventing death star from being competitive with other tank is it accuracy , the accuracy basically made death star a walking lottery , everyone know that lottery grand prize chance is low , and death star chance to hit enemy is also low due to extreme inaccuracy. Please at least reduce the 100m dispersion to somewhere near 0.3 or lower because right now death star is not competitive in any possible way.

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ProAryanGamer #2 Posted 25 August 2021 - 03:43 AM

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Hey,

FV has a gun too good (DMG N PEN), so i think it should remain like that. Buff would make it broken. Either way fv is not for begineers. Grind Jageroo, foch, t110e3, t110e4, ho ri wz etc if u need td with good armor. If not, then grind grille 15. It has a awesome gun.



Jaydhani_42 #3 Posted 25 August 2021 - 12:32 PM

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View PostProAryanGamer, on 25 August 2021 - 03:43 AM, said:

Hey,

FV has a gun too good (DMG N PEN), so i think it should remain like that. Buff would make it broken. Either way fv is not for begineers. Grind Jageroo, foch, t110e3, t110e4, ho ri wz etc if u need td with good armor. If not, then grind grille 15. It has a awesome gun.

good pen ? You are joking right ? The highest pen fv 215b 183 have is just 326 while obj 268 have 380 heat pen and heat does not lose pen over distance. Fv215b 183 is the reverse of what you are saying , it has the WORST pen . Enemey heavies from the front is already almost all red , and it is a game over for fv215b 183 when enemy decided to angle/hull down, it is all RED . Good luck trying to shoot AP into enemy heavies from front , because the dispersion is as big as the moon in the snow map , shooting hesh to the front of enemy heavy only deals averagely 300-500 damage with such horrible reload, and that is ONLY if your rng is good and you managed to hit enemy.

 

 


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awesome_guy290 #4 Posted 25 August 2021 - 01:08 PM

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Use HESH, target mediums not heavies. Don’t camp, cuz your horrible accuracy. Play support. Get near cover. Simple. Never played 183 before but I’ve seen what good 183 players have done.

Huy_805 #5 Posted 26 August 2021 - 06:37 AM

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FV already have a super good gun and effect also it armor is pretty thick, buff it may cause unfair

about bullies you do not need to be worry just go with your temate and every thing will be fine *drink tea*


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Jaydhani_42 #6 Posted 27 August 2021 - 05:03 AM

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View PostHuy_805, on 26 August 2021 - 06:37 AM, said:

FV already have a super good gun and effect also it armor is pretty thick, buff it may cause unfair

about bullies you do not need to be worry just go with your temate and every thing will be fine *drink tea*

"Super good gun" yeah 0.37 dispersion gun that causes hesh shell to hit track/non weak spot area 80% of the time and make sniping from long range or snapshot almost impossible . And 183 doesnt have apcr/heat shell so 183 cant use the gun to penetrate enemy easily unlike other tank destroyer. Enough with the hypocrite.


Edited by Jaydhani_42, 27 August 2021 - 05:09 AM.


Jaydhani_42 #7 Posted 27 August 2021 - 05:29 AM

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View Postawesome_guy290, on 25 August 2021 - 01:08 PM, said:

Use HESH, target mediums not heavies. Don’t camp, cuz your horrible accuracy. Play support. Get near cover. Simple. Never played 183 before but I’ve seen what good 183 players have done.

Dude , based on my experience on 183 , medium tank is the hardest enemy to fight using 183 , i found it easier to fight enemy heavies than medium tank because medium tank have good gun depression and good turret armor that 183 cannot / hard to penetrate using the AP shell because the penetration value is too low, and even if enemy turret can be penetrated in some small spot , 183 gun dispersion will guide the shell away from the weakspot , either bounce/miss.



Thekingoftheworldoftanks #8 Posted 27 August 2021 - 02:40 PM

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Why are you using AP. Highest damage in the game. Use HE or whatever explosive she'll the 183 has.

Jaydhani_42 #9 Posted 27 August 2021 - 03:30 PM

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View PostThekingoftheworldoftanks, on 27 August 2021 - 02:40 PM, said:

Why are you using AP. Highest damage in the game. Use HE or whatever explosive she'll the 183 has.

Because not every tank can be penetrated to deal 1200 dmg with hesh . Most tank only can be penetrated on their side if they do not angle their hull and turret , worse is that many tank have spaced armor on their side , and track eats hesh like it is nothing , combine that with horrible dispersion and it result in averagely 150-400 dmg hesh or completely miss the target



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View PostJaydhani_42, on 27 August 2021 - 03:30 PM, said:

Because not every tank can be penetrated to deal 1200 dmg with hesh . Most tank only can be penetrated on their side if they do not angle their hull and turret , worse is that many tank have spaced armor on their side , and track eats hesh like it is nothing , combine that with horrible dispersion and it result in averagely 150-400 dmg hesh or completely miss the target

 

The HESH shell has 220mm penetration. Just shoot it at mediums or lights. Even frontally it's more than enough to penetrate most tanks.

the AP shell on the 183 has the highest AP penetration in t10.  If you're having trouble penetrating stuff with that, maybe the 183 isn't for you. It is a hard tank to do well in.

 



Sam9464 #11 Posted 02 September 2021 - 10:57 PM

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FV 215B 183 doesn't need a buff. 
the tank is not a camper far away. It's best played supporting the team (preferably Heavy's)

I run it on my Reroll account with Calibrated Shells (22mm+) and only AP and HESH loaded (Gun rammer is good but at 18.5secs reload wih all the reload buffers, you're still going to wait a long time IMO).  

242mm of pen for the HESH is enough to frontally munt most MT's and some TD's Hitpoints. 

It can bully tier 9's (HESH a T-54 at full hitpoints!!!!  :) )

Never stay behind camping whilst the Team is fighting.

Never Think you can 1vs1

Always sidescrape and ram if possible (don't ram heavier tanks!)

 

Personally i think it's fine as it is. WG nerfed its Dispersion a while ago which was good because now it has to play as a support instead of camping. 


Edited by Sam9464, 02 September 2021 - 11:00 PM.


Huy_805 #12 Posted 05 September 2021 - 11:33 PM

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come one Jay look the su 152 then complain FV 183 :))

Jaydhani_42 #13 Posted 10 September 2021 - 12:47 PM

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View PostSam9464, on 02 September 2021 - 10:57 PM, said:

FV 215B 183 doesn't need a buff. 
the tank is not a camper far away. It's best played supporting the team (preferably Heavy's)

I run it on my Reroll account with Calibrated Shells (22mm+) and only AP and HESH loaded (Gun rammer is good but at 18.5secs reload wih all the reload buffers, you're still going to wait a long time IMO).  

242mm of pen for the HESH is enough to frontally munt most MT's and some TD's Hitpoints. 

It can bully tier 9's (HESH a T-54 at full hitpoints!!!!  :) )

Never stay behind camping whilst the Team is fighting.

Never Think you can 1vs1

Always sidescrape and ram if possible (don't ram heavier tanks!)

 

Personally i think it's fine as it is. WG nerfed its Dispersion a while ago which was good because now it has to play as a support instead of camping. 

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 242mm of pen for the HESH is enough to frontally munt most MT's and some TD's Hitpoints. 

 It is only true against inexperienced mt driver. Experienced mt player will simply play hull down or hide their weakspot using tracks and spaced armor , and hesh cannot do anything about it.

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 Never stay behind camping whilst the Team is fighting.

 Many tier 10 have clips (M-yoh,Emil II,kranvagn,progetto) , i'm against camping but fv215b 183 is very slow , it cant run when it is caught in open , and these clip tank will dump all their shell in the clip then retreating to cover , 183 cant do anything about it other than crying in the corner.

 

It might raises another question "Just shoot those clip tanks ? You have 183mm gun !" , the truth is , fv215b 183 have the worst maximum penetration , it cant penetrate enemy as easy as tank with heat/apcr .

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 Always sidescrape and ram if possible (don't ram heavier tanks!)

 sidescrape almost NEVER work on fv215b 183 because the tank have almost no armor and big size turret that is placed on the back of the tank guarantee an easy spot for penetration. 

 

When using fv215b 183 , it is practically more viable to run away rather than side scraping. 

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 WG nerfed its Dispersion a while ago which was good because now it has to play as a support instead of camping. 

 That isnt totally true  , due to very bad penetration value and dispersion , fv215b 183 is not very good on being a support . LITERALLY ALL other tier 10 tank destroyer with heat/apcr shell is a better support than 183.

 



Dragonfly_M3 #14 Posted 13 September 2021 - 09:23 AM

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Forget the 183, it might need some buffs I’m not sure, I have not played it… nuff the fv215b heavyyy (or not?) 

do you think the 215b is still ok after it’s Nerf?






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