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[JohnnyCage276]

Remember those days long ago when ...

 

- you could play game tiers 2-5 when you could take out any tank and it'd be fun (T82, Cruiser IV, T46, Luchs, Leo, T67)

- when winning at tier 6 and 7 wasn't based on who has the most award tanks

- before Crates became a thing

- you could earn proper credits for a win (without premium) at any tier up to tier 8 

- when playing the T49 didn't cost you 30,000 credit loss per game

 

Used to play 10-15 varieties of tanks at lots of different levels.  Now only enjoy playing 4 or 5 at a couple of tiers.  

 

Used to be a great game.  Shame.

[RonanTheAccuser]

sounds like you just liked it when it was easier

 

i’ve been playing over two years and I still love it

[Lord_Melchett]

While those are all changes for the worse, the most important one to me is how quickly new players get to tier 5.  It used to be in that tier 5 and above you could usually count on a majority of the players in a battle having some idea, because they had spent some time in tier 1-4 learning how to play.  Now, it's a total crap shoot in all tiers.

 

It's not that there weren't bad players and bad teams back then, because there were.  It just wasn't most of the battles, as it seems to be now.

[TnkDztroyer]

Lord_Melchett, on 14 February 2020 - 09:36 PM, said:

While those are all changes for the worse, the most important one to me is how quickly new players get to tier 5.  It used to be in that tier 5 and above you could usually count on a majority of the players in a battle having some idea, because they had spent some time in tier 1-4 learning how to play.  Now, it's a total crap shoot in all tiers.

 

It's not that there weren't bad players and bad teams back then, because there were.  It just wasn't most of the battles, as it seems to be now.

 

yup! that's how it is

 

[TnkDztroyer]

JohnnyCage276, on 14 February 2020 - 10:35 AM, said:

Remember those days long ago when ...

 

- you could play game tiers 2-5 when you could take out any tank and it'd be fun (T82, Cruiser IV, T46, Luchs, Leo, T67)

- when winning at tier 6 and 7 wasn't based on who has the most award tanks

- before Crates became a thing

- you could earn proper credits for a win (without premium) at any tier up to tier 8 

- when playing the T49 didn't cost you 30,000 credit loss per game

 

Used to play 10-15 varieties of tanks at lots of different levels.  Now only enjoy playing 4 or 5 at a couple of tiers.  

 

Used to be a great game.  Shame.

 

I'm noticing the same thing. I'm playing only a few of my tanks most of the time, as with the majority of the others I have no hope of winning, or earning credits, because this is no longer a team game, as most players seem to have little or no concept of team play, and such things as focus fire, etc., so the likelihood of winning depends largely on your ability to carry the team.

 

[ankitgusai19]

JohnnyCage276, on 14 February 2020 - 05:35 AM, said:

Remember those days long ago when ...

 

- you could play game tiers 2-5 when you could take out any tank and it'd be fun (T82, Cruiser IV, T46, Luchs, Leo, T67)

- when winning at tier 6 and 7 wasn't based on who has the most award tanks

 

Yes this is something that has really gone wrong IMO as well. These days playing lower tier is frowned upon.
It is just a game, people should be able to play what they like to play. Besides, sometimes it is matter of nostalgia, sometimes it is something people are learning at school/university, sometimes it is something one saw on field trip or simply because people want be relaxed and play without stress, whatever happened to all that?    

 

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- before Crates became a thing

For this everybody is to blame, for WG it is a great opportunity to make money from a tank that they can only dream of otherwise if they sell it directly by accepting money, people gamble on crates like no tomorrow. 

 

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- you could earn proper credits for a win (without premium) at any tier up to tier 8 

 I think you still can, at least I can.

 

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- when playing the T49 didn't cost you 30,000 credit loss per game

 I dont think this was ever the case, I've been playing ever since it came out.

 

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Used to be a great game.  Shame.

 Its still is though, but every game has to evolve, and as it moves forward its will not fit in every players's idea of perfect game. There's always an effort to make a product balanced between people's expectations, owner's business expectations and future security. 

 

 

Edited by ankitgusai19, 15 February 2020 - 07:00 AM.

[BossArdnutz]

I'm still enjoying it. I'd still be improving in WR if not for a couple of my rehab projects which are proving difficult. That said, I've cleared the Firefly, Challenger and T-34-3 recently. I only need to catch up 3 wins in the Y5 ELC bis, but the rest are going to be much tougher as they clearly don't fit the way my head works so I'm just really slow to learn them...

 

Once I've gotten all my current garage up to 50%, I can focus a bit more on tanks I typically did well in. At that point I expect I'll see an increase in my win rate. 

Edited by BossArdnutz, 15 February 2020 - 09:18 AM.

[TnkDztroyer]

BossArdnutz, on 15 February 2020 - 07:17 PM, said:

I'm still enjoying it. I'd still be improving in WR if not for a couple of my rehab projects which are proving difficult. That said, I've cleared the Firefly, Challenger and T-34-3 recently. I only need to catch up 3 wins in the Y5 ELC bis, but the rest are going to be much tougher as they clearly don't fit the way my head works so I'm just really slow to learn them...

 

Once I've gotten all my current garage up to 50%, I can focus a bit more on tanks I typically did well in. At that point I expect I'll see an increase in my win rate. 

 

You make it sound like a job, lol

 

[moonhag]

RNG....the lord of wins, fix it [edited]! 

I can handle potato teams, being under tier most times but gosh when i hit a tank i want the reward not a rigged result.

[_Schism_]

18k Battles on NA server

3k on EU server

coming up on 1k here...still having fun.

Edited by _Schism_, 17 February 2020 - 01:07 PM.

[JohnnyCage276]

RonanTheAccuser, on 14 February 2020 - 07:45 AM, said:

sounds like you just liked it when it was easier

 

i’ve been playing over two years and I still love it

 

Good, that's what it's all about, but I'd be surprised if you have fun playing a full range of tiers anymore. My take is that it's challenging to play a lot of Tier 8-10 games because the credit earn has been reduced over the last 24 months (according to the tank). Tier 6 is fun except when lower tier as the biggest determinant in the game is whether Green or Red have an edge with limited availability tanks - Smasher, Helsing, Drac, etc.  Tier 5 has ok credits and ok (but dull) gameplay.  Tiers 1 to 4 are unplayable. 

 

Could be I thought it was easier ... but the drop in my AV WR is not that significant 0.5% after 30,000 games.  What I lost is the amazing variety in the gameplay it had before the update 5 changes.

 

I see the new CRATE release is going to compound the problem - Drac, Helsing, Smasher, T22 Medium on offer for those with the desire to gamble cash.

[JohnnyCage276]

_Schism_, on 17 February 2020 - 01:07 PM, said:

18k Battles on NA server

3k on EU server

coming up on 1k here...still having fun.

Recognize the handle from the server, good player.  Just for interest, how come you didn't port over your account/tanks to the new server? or is that not possible?

[TnkDztroyer]

JohnnyCage276, on 19 February 2020 - 11:29 AM, said:

Recognize the handle from the server, good player.  Just for interest, how come you didn't port over your account/tanks to the new server? or is that not possible?

 

Not possible.

[cameron1979]

my experiences lately have been mixed like allot of people. The missile tanks just astound me, how they could be introduced and how they have changed the game and made tiers 8, 9 and 10 unplayable at times. It seems that if you have missile tanks on either side, they decide who wins the game allot of the time, the rest of us are fighting over scraps.

 

However leaving that aside the following things lately have annoyed me, nothing new here:

1) Teams having inexperienced players compared to the other team.

2) AFK or Bot players. I had a 4 battle sequence where every battle had an afk, one battle my team had 3 afk players

3) Like somebody mentioned unfair tank lineups, again I was playing bottom tier as a tier 6 tank, reds had 2 dracs, a Helsing and a type 62 dragon, we had rubbish top tier tanks. Smasher means almost certain loss when bottom tier

4) Why teams aren't balance, ie 1 team has 3 top tier HTs. I had a battle with 3 top tier big alpha TDs, our team had none, why can that not be balanced.

5) Big alpha TDs at lower levels. Im thinking tiers 6 & 7. With inexperienced players at these levels, see issue 1, players don't understand camo or channels the TDs sit in and they get deleted in 30secs, and your team is screwed, especially mts and lts.

6) Runs of being bottom tier, I have had 13 games in a row of being bottom tier and it gets frustrating when u constantly bounce higher tiers or get eliminated early as you just can compete with higher tiers if the player has some skill.

 

Solutions

1) Look at ranking players and evening teams out. I don't enjoy winning 7-0, not sure what other think

2) Harsher penalties for repeat AFK/BOT offenders, how the notorious bacon bot kept going without penalty for months still bothers me. I used to check his stats on blitzstars and they would play 200 games a day and average 8  dmg with no kills, I reported him numerous times and nothing was done.

3 & 4) Balance tanks, ie if 3 top tier Hts in a battle, split them, agree on platoons being excepted. OP tanks should be split or made be bottom tier more regularly.

5) Nerf either pen on big alpha tanks, or make them more likely to be penned with HE.

6) I would like more battles where its all same tier, I want a contest, not to smash people for fun. Being constantly bottom tier is a big reason people jump up tiers before ready in my experience.

Edited by cameron1979, 21 February 2020 - 04:23 AM.

[MrDucky17]

Before 5.5 when I was a big newb but still got to have fun nevertheless 

[MrDucky17]

The game is still enjoyable (the reason why I still play it) but the tiers below 5 are really bland and not as fun they used to be. The point is that the game lost its diversity

[TnkDztroyer]

I want to see more tanks in the lower tiers 1 -  4. it was stupid of WG to remove a lot of tanks from those tiers.

[Cyril_Roy]

I wish i kept amx40.so ugly it s beautiful

[anonym_Pw1NrtcUchdZ]

Yes 4 hours ago