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erwin10001 #1 Posted 15 October 2019 - 02:38 PM

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VK16.02 Leopard. Shells in magazine from 9 to 12. 4 shells instead of 3 shells per shot. Does this imply a 25% increase in DPM? If yes, this is really something to look forward to!

 

M6 - increased armor - I didn't get the M6 because it wasn't necessary. Might be interesting to try it now?

 

T1 Heavy and BDR increased armor - I don't get this, you nerf the KV-1 armor and increase the T1's armor?  Is the T1 going to be the next KV-1?

 

Anyway, buffs like this are always interesting to me, gives me a reason to try out a tank that I might have ignored previously. 



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Looks like T1 is to become the next fav of sealclubbers at Tier5.

Funny balance to the B1, its frontal penetrable areas were buffed, so now hull down, u cant shoot any of it. They think a weak lower glacis balanced what?

First they trashed the Leo, now its buffed. They trashed the M5, now its buffed. Nice rollercoaster whenever they have a whimsical fancy.

 

And yet no changes to the real OP tanks, like the KeNi Otsu



Newb179 #3 Posted 15 October 2019 - 03:44 PM

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Maybe wargaming was tired of hearing Russian Bias hahaha

TheKneelo #4 Posted 16 October 2019 - 01:05 AM

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Keni will never be touched because too many super unicums would cry like little b****** and WG can’t upset them.

Who even plays tier 1-4 tanks. You just load game and buy a tier V premium.

It’s a noob fest at tier V so don’t even bother with 1-4

I am definitely interested in seeing how the Leopard plays with the buffs.
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The m6 might finally be okay...   I hope. Grinding the blasted thing at the moment and having to play overly passively. 

 

I feel as if the leo will be back to what it was (pre-5.5). Might be a little OP given the current tier V line-up. I'm not gonna lie, as an ex-filthy-sealclubber, I'm probably buying it back. ;)



TheKneelo #6 Posted 16 October 2019 - 01:15 AM

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Hmmm I may have to get the Leopard, I couldn’t be worse in it than people playing it now :/
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TnkDztroyer #7 Posted 16 October 2019 - 01:51 AM

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View Posterwin10001, on 16 October 2019 - 12:38 AM, said:

VK16.02 Leopard. Shells in magazine from 9 to 12. 4 shells instead of 3 shells per shot. Does this imply a 25% increase in DPM? If yes, this is really something to look forward to!

 

M6 - increased armor - I didn't get the M6 because it wasn't necessary. Might be interesting to try it now?

 

T1 Heavy and BDR increased armor - I don't get this, you nerf the KV-1 armor and increase the T1's armor?  Is the T1 going to be the next KV-1?

 

Anyway, buffs like this are always interesting to me, gives me a reason to try out a tank that I might have ignored previously. 

 

I don't either, because although their armor is not great, it's balanced by their firepower. at least that's how it seems to me.

 


I eat Leos for breakfast!  :playing:

ankitgusai19 #8 Posted 16 October 2019 - 05:38 AM

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WG is known to overdo the "balancing" of tanks.

 

Cases in point :

Grille 15 - While many would argue this tank just fine I think this tank was over nerfed. In span of 3 patches its top speed, engine power, track travers speed, gun arc and HP was nerfed. While the initial nerf of mobility is justified the hp and gun arc nerf was not necessary at all. 

 

Foch 155 - The autoloader is absolute bonkers. No justification required.

Fv 215b(183) - This tank was played/discussed the most (until last patch at least). Even before the nerf average winrate in it was one of the worst. Now since the nerf it has worst average damage and worst average win rate among all tier 10 by healthy margin. Granted that sheer number of players playing this tank made the gameplay stagnant BUT the nerf should be based on average stats and not popularity. Badger should have been the replacement of this tank, instead WG decided to make some money out of it and this tank has to suffer.

Amx 30 proto - This tank was better than average when it came. combination of t54 like turret and m46 patton like gun depression. Got spaced side armour for no reason at all. 

Ferdiand - Got long awaited buff few patches ago, made it OP, nerfed to ground again 2 patch later was buffed again.....

 

Tiger 2 - Was "little" power creeped since 1954. Finally buffed as tier 8.5 tank. (This tank will definitely get a armour nerf).

Fv215b - Received too many OP consumables and provisions. If you use reactive armour and rammer together thats increases your effective DPM 40%(Mind you that this tank already has very good DPM). While You also get 190 more HP with sandbag provision. And then there's improved speed boost... This and foch 155 will likely to be the prime feature of twister 2019. 

And I havent yet considered anything below tier 7. 

Coming to t1 heavy, it looks like it will be the new choice for seal clubbers. 

 

 



TnkDztroyer #9 Posted 16 October 2019 - 07:30 AM

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Is all this constant nerfing and buffing of tanks really necessary? seems to me like when they change one tank then they're likely to need to change some other one, and then when they change that, they need to change some other, and so on it goes ad infinitum!
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View PostTnkDztroyer, on 16 October 2019 - 01:00 PM, said:

Is all this constant nerfing and buffing of tanks really necessary? seems to me like when they change one tank then they're likely to need to change some other one, and then when they change that, they need to change some other, and so on it goes ad infinitum!



New tanks as they feature in game devs needs to provide something different to make it worth grinding OR make them little better than others. Since devs kinda have exhausted first option we get to deal with second. And after a while, other tanks are buffed time to time to make them competitive. 

Same theory is used with prems. Most of the prems when they firsts appear in game is slightly better. But over time other tanks around is buffed making it not so special. case in point IS-6, Defender, E25 and so on.

As Quickybaby said in his recent video, power creep is a necessary evil.

 


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erwin10001 #11 Posted 16 October 2019 - 10:02 AM

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View PostTnkDztroyer, on 16 October 2019 - 07:30 AM, said:

Is all this constant nerfing and buffing of tanks really necessary? seems to me like when they change one tank then they're likely to need to change some other one, and then when they change that, they need to change some other, and so on it goes ad infinitum!

 

 

I actually think that its a good opportunity to try new tanks you have never tried before or haven't played for a long time. At least this round is far better than the last round when they nerfed Amx12t and KV-2....

 

 



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tanks like M5A1 and Chaffee which are grossly not comparable to other same tier tanks, which really need some upgrades, are as usual overlooked by WG, what a joke of a update.

Esh11 #13 Posted 16 October 2019 - 10:56 AM

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Buff the Drac !! 

                                           

                                                                 

  


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Any info regarding event and how to get Drac camo ? Saw a post on FB about Nightmare Stug but I'm more interested in the blue camo for Drac .

                                           

                                                                 

  


erwin10001 #15 Posted 16 October 2019 - 11:07 AM

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Part of the sheer joy of driving around in VK16.02 is back! So fun to drive around and unload up to 300 damage per clip! And with KV-1 armor nerfed, I guess my only worry is T1 Heavy....


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Smasher needs a buff next patch

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View PostCaptWombat, on 16 October 2019 - 08:38 PM, said:

Smasher needs a buff next patch

D'you know, I think you're absolutely right



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View Posterwin10001, on 16 October 2019 - 09:07 PM, said:

 

 

Part of the sheer joy of driving around in VK16.02 is back! So fun to drive around and unload up to 300 damage per clip! And with KV-1 armor nerfed, I guess my only worry is T1 Heavy....

 

I just killed a few of the pesky noisy things today in my T1. Be afraid, be very afraid, lol!

 


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Killing the Leopard or the KV1? Which is the pesky noisy things?

TnkDztroyer #20 Posted 17 October 2019 - 02:43 AM

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The Leos. haven't you noticed how loud the gun is? they fly around shooting up everything, pesky noisy things that they are, lol
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