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[TnkDztroyer]

I see so many KV2 these days that don't fight. They just sit at the back in one spot and snipe. By not taking an active role, they increase the chances of the team losing. But if they are fighting the rest of the team needs to support them, because of the poor mobility and slow reload.

[erwin10001]

The correct place for a KV-2 is behind a bush. Because of its slow reload, it plays a supporting role while TD like Jackson are supposed to push forward:  http://forum.wotblitz.asia/index.php?/topic/19752-road-to-jackson-td-fight-ht-behind-bush/page__hl__%2Bcamping__fromsearch__1

[Chalks]

I have unfortunately found quite a few opfor KV-2s hiding near their red spawn. That would be unfortunate because I’ve flanked the bejesus out of the reds in my paper mache light tank (MT-25 as an example) only to come around the corner and find that the KV-2 is not even looking at the battle...which means he’s looking at me and BOOM I’m gone. 

 

But yes, a green KV-2 trying it’s hand at long range sniping from the rear is dispiriting, especially when they head off on their own to the other side of the map.

 

A well driven KV-2 can be a hoot to watch as full health reds just evaporate one by one in great big Derp shots.

[TnkDztroyer]

Chalks, on 12 August 2019 - 07:30 AM, said:

I have unfortunately found quite a few opfor KV-2s hiding near their red spawn. That would be unfortunate because I’ve flanked the bejesus out of the reds in my paper mache light tank (MT-25 as an example) only to come around the corner and find that the KV-2 is not even looking at the battle...which means he’s looking at me and BOOM I’m gone. 

 

But yes, a green KV-2 trying it’s hand at long range sniping from the rear is dispiriting, especially when they head off on their own to the other side of the map.

 

A well driven KV-2 can be a hoot to watch as full health reds just evaporate one by one in great big Derp shots.

 

In Dead Rail just yesterday the team was fighting on the hill and on that side of the buildings, but a KV2 was sitting at the edge of the map on the other side of the tracks! I have no idea what he thought he could do from there. It was a loss and of course he was the last to die.

 

[WombatMcWombatFace]

As a long term KV2 and Smasher driver there are times you sit back and wait for an LT or MT to pop up like on the hill on Mines, to derp the hell out of them, but these are tanks that work best when you take as much RNG out of the mix, aka get up close and derp (then hide).

The other fun thing is running with the MT and LT to scare the crap out the red MT and LT's. Nothing scares them more than 152mm of canon pointing at them about to hurl a fridge at them.

[TnkCmndrToo]

I usually prefer to play the KV-2 like a frontline heavy - side scraping etc. Otherwise, it's off to the medium flank to put in some big hits on little tanks . I don't really like playing it from the back.

 

Also, hasn't it been nerfed? How's it holding up now?

Edited by TnkCmndrToo, 12 August 2019 - 02:56 AM.

[ankitgusai19]

WombatMcWombatFace, on 12 August 2019 - 08:13 AM, said:

"As a long term KV2 and Smasher driver"

I bet you had to take a bath after saying that!!! 

[WombatMcWombatFace]

ankitgusai19, on 12 August 2019 - 03:17 PM, said:

I bet you had to take a bath after saying that!!! 

In the blood of the recently derped actually.

[TnkDztroyer]

TnkCmndrToo, on 12 August 2019 - 12:56 PM, said:

I usually prefer to play the KV-2 like a frontline heavy - side scraping etc. Otherwise, it's off to the medium flank to put in some big hits on little tanks . I don't really like playing it from the back.

 

Also, hasn't it been nerfed? How's it holding up now?

 

I don't have a KV-2. I've never wanted one. I have the KV-1, 3, and 5 tho.

[BossArdnutz]

It's due to be nerfed in 6.2.

[TnkDztroyer]

BossArdnutz, on 13 August 2019 - 09:11 PM, said:

It's due to be nerfed in 6.2.

 

That will upset a lot of players! I don't really have a problem with KV-2 tho. So it's a tank to be feared. So what? We just have to keep away from the front of it. That big turret makes a nice target tho, and it easy to pen from the side or rear, or from the front with APCR with most tanks. We don't want all tanks to be the same and boring, do we?

[erwin10001]

TnkDztroyer, on 13 August 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

 

That will upset a lot of players! I don't really have a problem with KV-2 tho. So it's a tank to be feared. So what? We just have to keep away from the front of it. That big turret makes a nice target tho, and it easy to pen from the side or rear, or from the front with APCR with most tanks. We don't want all tanks to be the same and boring, do we?

 

Blitzstars stats

KV-2 - average winrate 53.26%. OP! Nerf!

Smasher - average winrate 61.94% Perfectly balanced, no nerf required

Drac - average winrate 61.64% Perfectly balanced, no nerf required

 

If balance means the performance is fair for the $$$ you paid for it.

 

[TnkDztroyer]

erwin10001, on 13 August 2019 - 11:32 PM, said:

 

Blitzstars stats

KV-2 - average winrate 53.26%. OP! Nerf!

Smasher - average winrate 61.94% Perfectly balanced, no nerf required

Drac - average winrate 61.64% Perfectly balanced, no nerf required

 

If balance means the performance is fair for the $$$ you paid for it.

 

 

hmmmm... yes indeed. that's just telling us we can 'pay to win', isn't it

 

[xXYoloNoobSwagXx]

Depends on situation. I sometimes snipe if I know if I have a higher chance of clear shop, depending on the map

[Gandalf__Greyhame]

erwin10001, on 13 August 2019 - 01:32 PM, said:

 

Blitzstars stats

KV-2 - average winrate 53.26%. OP! Nerf!

Smasher - average winrate 61.94% Perfectly balanced, no nerf required

Drac - average winrate 61.64% Perfectly balanced, no nerf required

 

If balance means the performance is fair for the $$$ you paid for it.

 

Of all tier 7 tanks Smasher has :

2nd highest avg WR  , 2nd highest survival rate

Highest KDR ( kill per death ? ) , Highest Damage per battle   highest Kills per battle 

I say its pretty well balanced .

[Gandalf__Greyhame]

List of Top 17 tier 7 tanks according to highest avg WR :

1. Poopus

2. Smasher

3. M6A2E1

4. Drac

5. Helsing

6. Gravedigger

7. IS2 1945

8. Nameless

9. Predator UM

10. Vindicator UM

11. Tankenstein

12. Edelweiss

13. T28 concept

14. AT 15A

15. Hafen

16 . Rudy

17. Type 62

Dunno about you but I certainly cannot see anything common between these tanks .

Okay now the lowest 17 WR tanks in tier 7 starting from worst  :

1. St Emil ( worst wr )

2. Panther M10 $$

3. Jagdpants

4. T20

5. Panther 1

6. Bulldog

7. Vk 3002D

8. T25/2

9. T71

10. AMX Ac 46

11. Sp1c

12. AMX 1375

13. Chi Ri

14.T25AT

15. E25 $$

16. Challenger

17 . Tiger 1

Bottom 17 has 15 tech tree tanks and 2 premiums . I think those 2 prems should be immediate buffed . I am sure the other prems tease them in the garage .

[erwin10001]

Gandalf__Greyhame, on 13 August 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

List of Top 17 tier 7 tanks according to highest avg WR :

1. Poopus

2. Smasher

3. M6A2E1

4. Drac

5. Helsing

6. Gravedigger

7. IS2 1945

8. Nameless

9. Predator UM

10. Vindicator UM

11. Tankenstein

12. Edelweiss

13. T28 concept

14. AT 15A

15. Hafen

16 . Rudy

17. Type 62

Dunno about you but I certainly cannot see anything common between these tanks .

 

 

After carefully analysing all the stats in blitzstars such as terrain resistance, gun depression for commonalities, It dawned on me that what they have in common is that they are all tier 7 tanks. 

 

[Chalks]

I don’t have any of those top 17 tanks.... (all came about during my 3 year hiatus).

 

My best tier 7s are KV-3, Comet and T-43 on 60% and the IS on 70%. Average WR for the tier is 54% but that’s from the old days when things were different/better....

 

Ironically my two worst tier 7s are the M41 Bulldog and T71 on 45% and 39% respectively. They would be the two newest tier 7 that I have. Either I’m no where near the player I used to be, or something’s changed in the game.

 

 

[TnkDztroyer]

Gandalf__Greyhame, on 14 August 2019 - 12:55 AM, said:

List of Top 17 tier 7 tanks according to highest avg WR :

1. Poopus

2. Smasher

3. M6A2E1

4. Drac

5. Helsing

6. Gravedigger

7. IS2 1945

8. Nameless

9. Predator UM

10. Vindicator UM

11. Tankenstein

12. Edelweiss

13. T28 concept

14. AT 15A

15. Hafen

16 . Rudy

17. Type 62

Dunno about you but I certainly cannot see anything common between these tanks .

Okay now the lowest 17 WR tanks in tier 7 starting from worst  :

1. St Emil ( worst wr )

2. Panther M10 $$

3. Jagdpants

4. T20

5. Panther 1

6. Bulldog

7. Vk 3002D

8. T25/2

9. T71

10. AMX Ac 46

11. Sp1c

12. AMX 1375

13. Chi Ri

14.T25AT

15. E25 $$

16. Challenger

17 . Tiger 1

Bottom 17 has 15 tech tree tanks and 2 premiums . I think those 2 prems should be immediate buffed . I am sure the other prems tease them in the garage .

 

well, waddya know about that! the top 17 tanks are ALL premiums. can anyone say 'pay to win'? btw, what the heck is a 'poopus'? and almost all the bottom tanks are tech tree. wow, how surprising. not!

 

[TnkDztroyer]

Chalks, on 14 August 2019 - 08:20 AM, said:

I don’t have any of those top 17 tanks.... (all came about during my 3 year hiatus).

 

My best tier 7s are KV-3, Comet and T-43 on 60% and the IS on 70%. Average WR for the tier is 54% but that’s from the old days when things were different/better....

 

Ironically my two worst tier 7s are the M41 Bulldog and T71 on 45% and 39% respectively. They would be the two newest tier 7 that I have. Either I’m no where near the player I used to be, or something’s changed in the game.

 

 

 

a LOT has changed in the game! even since I started playing just a year or more ago.