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IGNORE_MY_WINRATE #1 Posted 08 March 2019 - 09:42 PM

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I would love to see some suggestions on fixes for the still-ridiculous Death Star. The recent nerfs have not stopped 183 drivers camping spawn, before getting rushed and dying. 

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Nothing they do will stop 183 from camping - camping is what they got 183 for!!!

TnkCmndrToo #3 Posted 09 March 2019 - 12:05 AM

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Nerfing mobility on a tank to reduce camping is rather pointless. You could just scrap the 183, and add the Badger from WoT PC (since it is also more consistent with the rest of the AT line).

 

But the 183 is a tank that is designed to sit at the back. I think that it's not the tank, but the skill of the players... not much we can do. Although I haven't had too many problems with 183s lately.

 



aazim #4 Posted 09 March 2019 - 12:11 AM

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uninstall - solve all problems
wgreed

SaltyMuppet #5 Posted 09 March 2019 - 02:29 AM

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View Postaazim, on 09 March 2019 - 10:11 AM, said:

uninstall - solve all problems

Lol yes it will but not what OP was looking for.


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SaltyMuppet #6 Posted 09 March 2019 - 02:31 AM

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I didn’t realise how weak that tank is till I trashed one in my Chieftan Mk VI.
He shot me once and missed me once and so long Deathstar.
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View PostIGNORE_MY_WINRATE, on 09 March 2019 - 03:12 AM, said:

I would love to see some suggestions on fixes for the still-ridiculous Death Star. The recent nerfs have not stopped 183 drivers camping spawn, before getting rushed and dying. 

 

If recent nerf has done anything it has made the 183 proper spawn camper, you move a little you get spotted at 500 meters. It is next to unplayable actively, all you can do is camp bush at way way back and hope that your team can think and breath at the same time. 

Over time 183 population will decrease as it is hard to play  and not so fun anymore. I have stopped, camping and hopping for things to happen is not my playstyle. The best thing is to make it collectable, introduce a new tier 9 TD(that adheres to the playstyle if brit TDs), buff tortoise remove its cupola and make it tier 10. I'm not for badger because we already have 122-54 that is very similar in playstyle while original unerfed tort gun was something to play for. 

P.S. I suspect there is a buff coming for 183, small camo improvement most likely.
PPS I would also love to see 183 lose AP, get 240 odd mm heat as premmo, 140 mm HESH premmo and 95 mm HE. Get original mobility and camo and gun handling. That would certainly encourage people move around to make that gun work.  

Edited by ankitgusai19, 09 March 2019 - 06:04 AM.


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View Postankitgusai19, on 09 March 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

 

If recent nerf has done anything it has made the 183 proper spawn camper, you move a little you get spotted at 500 meters. It is next to unplayable actively, all you can do is camp bush at way way back and hope that your team can think and breath at the same time. 

Over time 183 population will decrease as it is hard to play  and not so fun anymore. I have stopped, camping and hopping for things to happen is not my playstyle. The best thing is to make it collectable, introduce a new tier 9 TD(that adheres to the playstyle if brit TDs), buff tortoise remove its cupola and make it tier 10. I'm not for badger because we already have 122-54 that is very similar in playstyle while original unerfed tort gun was something to play for. 

P.S. I suspect there is a buff coming for 183, small camo improvement most likely.
PPS I would also love to see 183 lose AP, get 240 odd mm heat as premmo, 140 mm HESH premmo and 95 mm HE. Get original mobility and camo and gun handling. That would certainly encourage people move around to make that gun work.  

 

If the 183 gets a camo buff, then the Grille should get an even bigger camo buff.

Why does the Grille have worse camo than 183 anyway....



ankitgusai19 #9 Posted 09 March 2019 - 09:42 AM

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View PostZIGZAGZ, on 09 March 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

 

If the 183 gets a camo buff, then the Grille should get an even bigger camo buff.

Why does the Grille have worse camo than 183 anyway....

 

Grille does not have worse camo then 183 anymore, 183 holds the first place.

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View Postankitgusai19, on 09 March 2019 - 05:42 PM, said:

 

Grille does not have worse camo then 183 anymore, 183 holds the first place.

 

If that's the case, then why should the 183 get a camo buff now??

By the way, where can i get the numbers that grille no longer has worse camo than 183?

On google, every other site says Grille still has worse camo. I doubt they are updated along the new updates, but where can i confirm them?



ankitgusai19 #11 Posted 09 March 2019 - 01:22 PM

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View PostZIGZAGZ, on 09 March 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:

 

If that's the case, then why should the 183 get a camo buff now??

By the way, where can i get the numbers that grille no longer has worse camo than 183?

On google, every other site says Grille still has worse camo. I doubt they are updated along the new updates, but where can i confirm them?

 

WG does not release camo values officially so one can only test in training room. get a medium/light slowly moving towards you and see at what range 183 and grille gets spotted. I'm speaking from personal experience and i'm fairly confidant that is is even worst that the Maus. 

For your first question if you look at the 5.7 performance chart, 183 is dealing considerably bad since nerf.

 


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SaltyMuppet #12 Posted 09 March 2019 - 09:56 PM

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Holy crap that is bad. And I am heading up that line. Hey WG make it a collector tank and put the Badger in before I get there :)
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f1reguy #13 Posted 10 March 2019 - 09:00 AM

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Be good if you had the chart prior to the changes, but maybe add the fv215 gun to the 183 and see what changes.

ankitgusai19 #14 Posted 10 March 2019 - 07:05 PM

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View PostSaltyMuppet, on 10 March 2019 - 03:26 AM, said:

Holy crap that is bad. And I am heading up that line. Hey WG make it a collector tank and put the Badger in before I get there :)

 

Well I enjoyed the grind thoroughly from tier 7. But at this point I would not suggest to go up this line if you are only interested in 183. 
Tier 7,8 and 9 all are solid tanks but they have the curse of not able to cary games. Plus, If your teammates are muppets then it can get frustrating at times.  

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View Postankitgusai19, on 11 March 2019 - 05:05 AM, said:

 

Well I enjoyed the grind thoroughly from tier 7. But at this point I would not suggest to go up this line if you are only interested in 183. 
Tier 7,8 and 9 all are solid tanks but they have the curse of not able to cary games. Plus, If your teammates are muppets then it can get frustrating at times.  

No the 183 wasn’t that important. I’ll keep going up am only at the AT2 so far so who knows what will happen before I get to it.

I am a muppet lol


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IGNORE_MY_WINRATE #16 Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:14 AM

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I would nerf the 183 dispersion to like .800 and buff the aim time to 1.2 secs. Then I would buff the side armour and turret sides + cheeks massively. This would make the 183 a finesse sidescraper, with drivers having to balance the risk of enemy pushes while reloading, and having to get in close to negate the ridiculous dispersion

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View PostIGNORE_MY_WINRATE, on 12 March 2019 - 05:44 AM, said:

I would nerf the 183 dispersion to like .800 and buff the aim time to 1.2 secs. Then I would buff the side armour and turret sides + cheeks massively. This would make the 183 a finesse sidescraper, with drivers having to balance the risk of enemy pushes while reloading, and having to get in close to negate the ridiculous dispersion

 

+1. Could be a really nice change.

IGNORE_MY_WINRATE #18 Posted 13 March 2019 - 09:59 PM

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View Postankitgusai19, on 12 March 2019 - 05:38 AM, said:

 

+1. Could be a really nice change.

 

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