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FeralCat #1 Posted 12 January 2019 - 11:52 AM

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I dont know about anyone else but 90% of the battles i play i'm the lower tier tank. 3 games in a row today i was a tier lower than every other tank on the field. It doesnt matter if i change tanks or change tiers, it doesnt make a difference. Some say its a random draw with all players getting an equal chance in battles but i'm beginning to think that its not. Any comments WG?

Neb10k #2 Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:15 PM

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It always has been.

Until update 5.3 it was just deciding how strong your team is, weaker after a winning streak.

Now it always tries to match experienced players agaibst each other and generally puts them at lower tier.

It sux.

Edited by Neb10k, 12 January 2019 - 10:16 PM.


ankitgusai19 #3 Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:22 PM

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View PostFeralCat, on 12 January 2019 - 05:22 PM, said:

I dont know about anyone else but 90% of the battles i play i'm the lower tier tank. 3 games in a row today i was a tier lower than every other tank on the field. It doesnt matter if i change tanks or change tiers, it doesnt make a difference. Some say its a random draw with all players getting an equal chance in battles but i'm beginning to think that its not. Any comments WG?

Here's what I have observed. 

 

There are more players in queue with tier 8 and 10 tanks, which means there is a good chance that you'll be lower tier in a game if you are driving tier 7 or 9. I would say it gets as bad an 70% lower tier 30% top tier. Tier 9 faces this scenario more often than tier 7 though. 

 

It's tough to grind stock tier 9s after that initial period of few games. While it's a joy to carry a team as a lower tier it certainly affects your win rate. 

 

 



2OLD2CARE #4 Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:50 PM

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It works exactly the way they want it to !!!

moonhag #5 Posted 13 January 2019 - 05:49 AM

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To the OP....25000  battles and only just now you are asking if this is rigged....lol!

Of course it is!

MM

Rng

Lower tier

Bots

Scrub players filling your team

etc etc etc.......

 

I would like to know why WG has decided this is the path to follow.Why cant players just play against each other and not be manipulated?

I am sure WG would still make money if they butted out of the results.

 

 



YOLO_Munky #6 Posted 13 January 2019 - 09:24 AM

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YES YES YES and Yes completely rigged.
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TheCapt #7 Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:46 PM

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I think the environment WG have created is fair & reasonable!

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Ambulant #8 Posted 13 January 2019 - 11:23 PM

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I don't think so. As you can see there's enough idiots on the player base to make your life difficult as it is. There's no need to rig anything for you to have a bad streak. Hell, just look at some of the idiots going around on this forum, that should give you a clue.

fjvhk #9 Posted 14 January 2019 - 03:02 AM

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View Postmoonhag, on 13 January 2019 - 01:49 PM, said:

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I would like to know why WG has decided this is the path to follow.Why cant players just play against each other and not be manipulated?

I am sure WG would still make money if they butted out of the results.

 

 

 

This question has been bugging me too. Surely there are enough players in the queue to run standard format battles - like same tier battles or 3 hi + 4 low type battles. Most players would accept those as fair odds.

 

Why go to all the trouble of varying the tiers mix in such an opaque manner and then have to maintain that it is statistically balanced. Of course users are going to complain when they dont know how battles are being arranged.

 

 



YOLO_Munky #10 Posted 14 January 2019 - 10:58 PM

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It has been stated before and I have been searching but can’t find it. In WG literature it states if you are winning and have a high WR you will be placed in battles that are more challenging ie you get scrubs. If you have a low WR and can’t drive forwards, shoot straight and are generally a potato you will be placed in less challenging games ie the scrubs get you to carry them. WG do not see this as rigging they see it as a legitimate game mechanic.

 

I guess it’s becoming more difficult if your WR is good because there are so many 30-45% players.


Edited by YOLO_Munky, 14 January 2019 - 10:59 PM.

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moonhag #11 Posted 15 January 2019 - 03:17 AM

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3 wins from 15 rounds thus far today....................

FeralCat #12 Posted 15 January 2019 - 07:49 AM

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View Postfjvhk, on 14 January 2019 - 03:02 AM, said:

 

This question has been bugging me too. Surely there are enough players in the queue to run standard format battles - like same tier battles or 3 hi + 4 low type battles. Most players would accept those as fair odds.

 

Why go to all the trouble of varying the tiers mix in such an opaque manner and then have to maintain that it is statistically balanced. Of course users are going to complain when they dont know how battles are being arranged.

 

 

 

I agree, I've always thought that there should be more lower tier than higher tier tanks in a battle, just to make it more fair.......I like to think I can hold my own on the field but even bad players in higher tier tanks will smash you if you're a tier lower and if the majority of tanks are a higher tier then it makes for a very conservative game.

 



Gandalf__Greyhame #13 Posted 15 January 2019 - 10:08 AM

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View PostFeralCat, on 15 January 2019 - 07:49 AM, said:

 

I agree, I've always thought that there should be more lower tier than higher tier tanks in a battle, just to make it more fair.......I like to think I can hold my own on the field but even bad players in higher tier tanks will smash you if you're a tier lower and if the majority of tanks are a higher tier then it makes for a very conservative game.

 

Isn't it surprising that no one complained about being lower tier when it was +/-2 MM ? Imagine if these cry babies had to face tier 10 tanks in a stock tier 8 .


                                                                

 

   


BossArdnutz #14 Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:37 PM

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It might be rigged - matchmaker and random number generator are both things that could be tweaked - but I've never seen anything that I thought actually looked like it was rigged.

Winning and losing streaks are perfectly normal within a random distribution, as are peaks and troughs around a trend line.  I used to play a lot of tabletop games that involved rolling a lot of 6-sided dice, like 120 of them at a time,  and I saw far more dramatic outlying results and streaks than anything I've seen in blitz in 4000-odd battles.

FeralCat #15 Posted 15 January 2019 - 10:33 PM

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View PostGandalf__Greyhame, on 15 January 2019 - 10:08 AM, said:

Isn't it surprising that no one complained about being lower tier when it was +/-2 MM ? Imagine if these cry babies had to face tier 10 tanks in a stock tier 8 .

 

There were plenty of complaints, thats why they refined it.

YOLO_Munky #16 Posted 16 January 2019 - 12:06 AM

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I know it’s been said a million times and as much as I rage it really is a matter of trying and I say trying not dealing... with the game as it stands at any given time. The most frustrating is you spend real money never knowing what the future holds.
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moonhag #17 Posted 17 January 2019 - 05:13 AM

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20 rounds played today

90% WR from 1st 10

10% WR from the next 10

 

Seriously what are the odds of this.....and it happens with frequency!

 



YOLO_Munky #18 Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:40 AM

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Game working as intended
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YOLO_Munky #19 Posted 17 January 2019 - 11:33 PM

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Ok I see heaps of Matilda when I play tier 3 but when I play Matilda... no joke I am 99% in tier V. Howisthat not rigged.
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aazim #20 Posted 19 January 2019 - 03:31 PM

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100% rigged. i hope wg devs ********
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