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GoBack2Tier1 #1 Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:33 PM

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just remove the camo when it fires

really Im quite sick of these windowlicking RHMs, hellcamps or derpstars that take no risk or no skill needed to do ridiculous amounts of damage

Either remove their camo when they fire without cover or make their guns absolutely crap, way too easy to pad damage im


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I’m quite looking forward to getting a derpstar... it’s guna be great putting my feet up and get the job done, if I sell it I can also safely assume it will be low mileage on the running gear, high engine hours...maybe want a new barrell. It’s gotta be better than the green mts that are driving around with a barrel so bent it’s literally pointing at its own driver or other crew members... 

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That is true, although camping requires patience, it is easily predictable on where they will be located. When I drive light/medium tanks, I normally go around the back way and spot the campers and let my team shoot and me just doing spotting damage without firing. If my team was playing defensive, for example; on Mines Map and enemies have a lot of TD's, you will already predict where the campers will be and they won't be able to shoot over the hill. 

 

I guess its all about tactics and reading the maps and starting lines of tanks before the battle commences. 

 

I do think turreted TD's can be overpowering, buts its only effective on how well the driver is. 

A couple of days ago, I was in an ST-l and the enemy had 3 183's. 1 did 0 damage, and the other 2 hardly got over 800 damage, whereas myself in a low tier with only 2 tier IX and 5 Tier X, I managed to do around 3000 damage while playing passively. 



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View PostLightninWar, on 05 March 2018 - 11:33 PM, said:

just remove the camo when it fires

really Im quite sick of these windowlicking RHMs, hellcamps or derpstars that take no risk or no skill needed to do ridiculous amounts of damage

Either remove their camo when they fire without cover or make their guns absolutely crap, way too easy to pad damage im

u know that some of them rely on camo, like rhm to survive right lol. stop ranting everytime u post smth 


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View Postlexus7204, on 06 March 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

u know that some of them rely on camo, like rhm to survive right lol. stop ranting everytime u post smth 

Very True ^^



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Umm what? Borsig has -2 gun dep and is paper armor. 

 

They all need map knowledge and camo mechanic understanding along with which range is safe to fire at to be successful.

 

Must have met a hardened player. Tough luck, but just carry on. 


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Turretted TDs are some of the best ambushers because of that rotating turret with camo values. Therefore, don't get ambushed.

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View PostxXYolo_Noob_DriverXx, on 06 March 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

Umm what? Borsig has -2 gun dep and is paper armor. 

 

They all need map knowledge and camo mechanic understanding along with which range is safe to fire at to be successful.

 

Must have met a hardened player. Tough luck, but just carry on. 

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View PostxXYolo_Noob_DriverXx, on 06 March 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

Umm what? Borsig has -2 gun dep and is paper armor. 

 

They all need map knowledge and camo mechanic understanding along with which range is safe to fire at to be successful.

 

Must have met a hardened player. Tough luck, but just carry on. 

 

thats absolutely bare minimum. Any idiot that was trained on how to use camo for a day can do that and rangefinding as well. They require the bare minimum. Thats it. Bare minimum. Anything that does stupid damage requiring the least amount of effort is dumb/broken. Whyd ya think the 140 was nerfed or the mediums recieved an all around global nerf a year ago?

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Everytime you post something you’re complaining. So what’s next LightninWar? Rhm has too much armour for you?

Oh and FV215b 183 has an OP gun? Seriously stop ranting in forums. You’ve probably never even fought an FV215b 183 because judging by this you probably don’t even have a tier X or IX. So let’s face it... if you can’t fight these simply lose and keep complaining. Sounds good too you? Perfect because its probably you’re gonna do if you don’t improve.

 

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View PostXF1_Razer, on 06 March 2018 - 04:40 PM, said:

Everytime you post something you’re complaining. So what’s next LightninWar? Rhm has too much armour for you?

Oh and FV215b 183 has an OP gun? Seriously stop ranting in forums. You’ve probably never even fought an FV215b 183 because judging by this you probably don’t even have a tier X or IX. So let’s face it... if you can’t fight these simply lose and keep complaining. Sounds good too you? Perfect because its probably you’re gonna do if you don’t improve.

 

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Ikr. Rhm needs a really good team to play around. 


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basically they got paper armor like toaster so HE = win. thats why camo is one of the pros. so try scouting em and spam mates to kill em asap, done, if borsig  is escorted, then bring a team and have someone flank, so the team will distract, while the flankers destroy the borsig. all I know

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TDs can't carry overall. A few used to be able to carry, as I have numerous Raisins in TDs from years ago. But these days forget it. Previously a team could count on over watch from a TD because the camping spots were good. Now that is mostly impossible, except in a few places in a few maps. Even when it was easier to play TDs, the class I had played the most, I still did worse in them than any other class, because I had to rely on my team not being clueless. Anyone who complains about 183s doesn't realize that they are helpless if their teams play as if they didn't exist. I absolutely gaurantee you that most players are not capable of that level of teamwork unless they are using discord. That is why players of the 183 and many other TDs have poor win rates in these vehicles.

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TD can never carry unless the TD player is really experienced. I remmeber winning 1v2 against LTTB and Dragon. Using the bumpy terrain to my advantageand a bit of luck, I managed to survive. But I can tell you, TDs are VERY VERY TEAM DEPENDANT. Just play HT if you hate getting wrecked in scouts.

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*COUGH* Hellcat *COUGH*

You need quite some skill to play it, otherwise you will die really easily

 

183s, Helsings, and Blaze WZ’s are my worst enemies though


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View PostKabama04, on 06 March 2018 - 11:18 PM, said:

*COUGH* Hellcat *COUGH*

You need quite some skill to play it, otherwise you will die really easily

 

183s, Helsings, and Blaze WZ’s are my worst enemies though

183s, Helsings and Blazes don’t seem to give me any trouble. 



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183 and blaze has a fixed turret.

but yeah, hellcat demands high skill level. Struggling a bit in my sub acc


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interestingly, my damage per battle for Hellcat and Jackson are now identical. And my Jackson stats are all post-buff.

 

The hellcat's camo advantage and speed still seems to make it better than Jacksons improved DPM



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View PostLightninWar, on 05 March 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

just remove the camo when it fires

really Im quite sick of these windowlicking RHMs, hellcamps or derpstars that take no risk or no skill needed to do ridiculous amounts of damage

Either remove their camo when they fire without cover or make their guns absolutely crap, way too easy to pad damage im

 

whoa, chill down there. As mentioned a lot of these turreted TDs need camo to stay alive and be a useful asset to the team. That being said, I'm not sure if you've obvserved that most turreted TD's trade in their armor for more camo. Take that camo away and well, you just have another target on screen that carries a big gun. Please also observe that just because a TD has a higher alpha, they will own automatically. Most TDs with a very high alpha gun will have rotten gun handling.

 

Sure there are a few turreted TDs like the Wolverine, Jackson, T-25/2, T-28 Proto and T30 that have a somewhat reasonable amount of armor but their camo rating isn't that good. And while they are capable of acting as substitute med or heavy if needed, respectively, it's not the smartest thing to do either as they and the majority of the turreted TDs also have a slow turret/hull traverse speed. If the Wolverine/Jackson/T30/T-28 Proto/T-25/2 have no idea or have the wrong idea of what to do, it's a sure bet that they are easy kills.

 

So again, if you take away the camo, all you get is just another target with a big gun that can be quickly cut down on account of their lack of armor and traverse speeds. I would assume that you've been recently fragged by a turreted TD driver who knows what s/he is doing? And don't worry, majority of the turreted TD drivers have no clue as to what they are doing you are sure to meet a yoloing Hellcat that you'll be more than happy to kill and then say, TDs are useless.

 

and by the way, there's a reason why they are called tank destroyers. And it's on account of their guns that are specifically designed and placed on them so that they could take down other tanks in as few shots as possible.

 

The way that you've been posting so far, it seems that you are asking for a global TD Nerf...


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Turreted TD usually have worse accuracy and longer reload than Turretless TD. The only TD that i feel a bit OP is T30




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