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LykanMC #1 Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:18 PM

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So just a few moments ago, I shot this WT auf. Pz. IV, with HE on my Kpfpz 70. NOTE: this is not a rant about RNG, it is about the average alpha on the kpfpz.

547 damage with a low roll really??

This tank has 640 alpha. On its HE. While having a 152mm and having a 15-16 second reload at tier 9.

 

In comparison, the KV-2 does 640 on its AP rounds. And 960 on its HE rounds. For a closer comparison, even the T49's 152mm Gun-launcher XM81 (Conventional) does 780 on its HE shells, while taking a similar time to reload, if not shorter.  

 

The penetration is not amazing either, on par with the Obj. 140 and T-62A on its standard APCR shell.

 

What do you guys think?



Maddoxkkm #2 Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:04 PM

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Russian Bias™ KV-2 vs Nerfed Germans™ KpfPz 70

152mm vs 152mm

640 alpha vs 560 alpha (Standard rounds)

960 alpha vs 640 alpha (HE rounds)

Tier 6 vs Tier 9

1669 DPM vs 1907 DPM (Standard rounds, without any provisions, equipment)

2503 DPM vs 2179 DPM (HE rounds, without any provisions, equipment)

7 Degrees vs 6 Degrees (Gun depression)

0.16 vs 0.20 (Dispersion while turning turret)

 

 

I mean, why play the kpf, when KV-2 can do better?

 

fun facts:
Kpf has the worst DPM in tier 9

Kpf is also the least accurate tier 9 tank

 

 


Edited by Maddoxkkm, 13 February 2018 - 03:05 PM.

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LykanMC #3 Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:14 PM

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Tbh the accuracy isnt that much of a problem, but the DPM is


Noobieman #4 Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:01 PM

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lol, where is all the Blitz programming expertise and stats analysis on this, or will this issue be 're-balanced' in 3 patches time

 

no one is allowed to 're-balance ' the poor KV 2         ;)



xXYolo_Noob_DriverXx #5 Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:34 AM

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The armor is good and has good alpha for tier ix HT. Stop complaining or sell it.

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Diamond114 #6 Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:43 AM

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Had only one match so far, Winter Malinovka, south spawn. Used Calibrated Shells instead of Gun Rammer. Killed 1 IS-6 and 1 Type 61. Earned 959 xp and did 2541 damage, used the gentle slope on the windmill area to hull down. Also helped by having a team that actually know how to hold ground properly.

 

It does have -6 of gun depression, but its overall height is about the same as T-54 ltwt and IS-3, and the gun's fulcrum is further forward so it's actually not too bad.

As for the slow reload, either have some friends around or keep your distance. This tank like most US heavies shines from a good and proper defensive position at the start of match

 


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Vratrixz #7 Posted 24 February 2018 - 02:49 AM

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Its kind of weird tho, Kpfpz 70/MBT 70 was like the daddy of the M1 Tank, its much more advanced than all the other tier 10s, it normally should have composite armour, its gun is a 152mm gun which is far more advanced than the other, fires APFSD (Sabot) round and HEAT-FS rounds, it can pen more than 350mm+ of armour with those rounds. (IRL) 

And in here, its just a normal tier 9 heav... while it should be at tier 10.

 

Talking about this, why doesnt WG add modern mbt like [some other game not worth mentioning], even that game now goes MBT 70 and its german counterpart (Researchable) and T-64 1971 and the other countries buds and in the future will get Challenger 1, T-64 BV (1987) and others. I think WG needs to keep up in the competition with Gaijin, like add tier 11-15 MBTs, and maybe make the Kpfpz 70 as a Premium tier 11 German MBT, while the MBT 70 a researchable American tier 11.


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View PostVratrixz, on 24 February 2018 - 10:49 AM, said:

Its kind of weird tho, Kpfpz 70/MBT 70 was like the daddy of the M1 Tank, its much more advanced than all the other tier 10s, it normally should have composite armour, its gun is a 152mm gun which is far more advanced than the other, fires APFSD (Sabot) round and HEAT-FS rounds, it can pen more than 350mm+ of armour with those rounds. (IRL) 

And in here, its just a normal tier 9 heav... while it should be at tier 10.

 

Talking about this, why doesnt WG add modern mbt like [some other game not worth mentioning], even that game now goes MBT 70 and its german counterpart (Researchable) and T-64 1971 and the other countries buds and in the future will get Challenger 1, T-64 BV (1987) and others. I think WG needs to keep up in the competition with Gaijin, like add tier 11-15 MBTs, and maybe make the Kpfpz 70 as a Premium tier 11 German MBT, while the MBT 70 a researchable American tier 11.

 

Unplayable. Its like playing FV215b183 with full and expensive consumables and without prem time. And the shells will be 1.5x more expensive. Go play something else if you want modern tanks

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View PostVratrixz, on 24 February 2018 - 10:49 AM, said:

Its kind of weird tho, Kpfpz 70/MBT 70 was like the daddy of the M1 Tank, its much more advanced than all the other tier 10s, it normally should have composite armour, its gun is a 152mm gun which is far more advanced than the other, fires APFSD (Sabot) round and HEAT-FS rounds, it can pen more than 350mm+ of armour with those rounds. (IRL) 

And in here, its just a normal tier 9 heav... while it should be at tier 10.

 

Talking about this, why doesnt WG add modern mbt like [some other game not worth mentioning], even that game now goes MBT 70 and its german counterpart (Researchable) and T-64 1971 and the other countries buds and in the future will get Challenger 1, T-64 BV (1987) and others. I think WG needs to keep up in the competition with Gaijin, like add tier 11-15 MBTs, and maybe make the Kpfpz 70 as a Premium tier 11 German MBT, while the MBT 70 a researchable American tier 11.

I don’t think wg is worried of any competition 


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