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limjf04 #41 Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:26 AM

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Well the Lupus for me isn't OP, just really close to being OP when in the proper hands. I'm pretty sure with all these noobs running around even if WG sells something like a Chrysler K they'll rage at the thing for being crap and not play them.

I've been seeing lots of people playing Type 62 but for the fantasy tanks only about one every 2-3 battles or so


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SxClegend #42 Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:49 AM

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As usual i didnt buy the lupus..
All i want in world of tanks blitz is a type 62....or maybe a su100y.Please let the tenks fall out of the sky for me

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View PostSxClegend, on 19 June 2017 - 07:49 AM, said:

As usual i didnt buy the lupus..

I thought you said you were going to buy Type 62 when the offer was available...why didn't you?


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It's not op. The gun is pretty inaccurate.  When I see all those guys missing shots.  It's just lol. Shoot just apcr under the gun . It's weak there. Don't shoot heat in the sides. The tracks gonna eat the shots. Side turret better . Shooting thru the front wheel also pens. Many players aren't playing well with rear mounted turrets.  Just be cool, outflank and rush them. Hug them side ways. Shoot apcr... + adrenaline. Make them regret their purchase.  Keep them tracked. The turret traverse is slow. And most of them just panics when getting rushed and shoot unaimed shots. Then PM them after the game saying just " Sorry" . That's just the cherry on top of the salt mount. No mercy. Period. 

 


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View PostHokey_Pokey, on 17 June 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

I hope they add Thomas the Tank Engine in the next patch

 


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Mr_Noob7 #46 Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:30 AM

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That gun of Lupus looks like a virus-infected di(k....

Edited by Mr_Noob7, 26 June 2017 - 02:30 AM.

 Hula, Hula, Hulaaaaa !

 

 


VV6_9487 #47 Posted 26 June 2017 - 07:36 AM

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So some people don't think this is an OP tank... well, unless you are a complete n o o b, it's pretty good tank even in 'average' player's hand.

 

HT aren't built for sniping, and inaccurate guns are everywhere in the Russian family. You don't see people playing less of Russian biased tank because of gun accuracy.

 



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Having slugged it out up to tier 6 I was horrified to face the Lupus (a tier 7 monster when facing it in a lower tier tank) in my ARL 44, a tank that Bushka claims has tier 8-like penetration, only to find my shells bouncing harmlessly off the Lupus' armour.  I have had similar problems with the Helsing.  Here's a thought.  If you absolutely MUST have fantasy tanks in your game, then set up a separate league for them to play in. Other games do so for those who want to play with fantasy or "exotic" weapons. It is seriously unfair "matchmaking" to expect tier 6 historical tanks to go up against any of the tier 7 fantasy tanks. It is not that hard to set up a separate section for the fantasy tanks. 

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View PostDwarfnz, on 28 June 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Having slugged it out up to tier 6 I was horrified to face the Lupus (a tier 7 monster when facing it in a lower tier tank) in my ARL 44, a tank that Bushka claims has tier 8-like penetration, only to find my shells bouncing harmlessly off the Lupus' armour.  I have had similar problems with the Helsing.  Here's a thought.  If you absolutely MUST have fantasy tanks in your game, then set up a separate league for them to play in. Other games do so for those who want to play with fantasy or "exotic" weapons. It is seriously unfair "matchmaking" to expect tier 6 historical tanks to go up against any of the tier 7 fantasy tanks. It is not that hard to set up a separate section for the fantasy tanks. 

I totally agree.



Joy_127 #50 Posted 28 June 2017 - 04:29 PM

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Today I faced lupus while playing strv74. I was like "[edited]! teir8 tank" 

 

 

All this time I was thinking lupus is a teir8 tank. It is a very good teir8 tank though. 



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It should become teir 8 so teir 6 get saved from bieng extinct

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View PostDestroyer123_defender, on 28 June 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

I totally agree.

 

View PostDwarfnz, on 28 June 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

Having slugged it out up to tier 6 I was horrified to face the Lupus (a tier 7 monster when facing it in a lower tier tank) in my ARL 44, a tank that Bushka claims has tier 8-like penetration, only to find my shells bouncing harmlessly off the Lupus' armour.  I have had similar problems with the Helsing.  Here's a thought.  If you absolutely MUST have fantasy tanks in your game, then set up a separate league for them to play in. Other games do so for those who want to play with fantasy or "exotic" weapons. It is seriously unfair "matchmaking" to expect tier 6 historical tanks to go up against any of the tier 7 fantasy tanks. It is not that hard to set up a separate section for the fantasy tanks. 

To be fair some of the tanks that got lumped into the same tier also has this large generation gap between them, Type 62 vs Tiger I for example. The time gap between those two tanks is nearly 20 years old. 


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The Lupus is a bully as top tier but not that great against tier 8 heavies.

It struggles to pen an IS3 or IS6, prammo is mandatory.

The Loopy is a great tank, I just always pray I am top tier! lol

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View PostTheCapt, on 28 June 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

The Lupus is a bully as top tier but not that great against tier 8 heavies.

It struggles to pen an IS3 or IS6, prammo is mandatory.

The Loopy is a great tank, I just always pray I am top tier! lol

As a usual sentence say a OP tank only stand behind the Operator not the tank itself, anyway LUPUS is a balance tank not OP in tier 6/7 it just armour and firepower being overpowered a little but if you met a decent player vs a LUPUS, Chances of LUPUS getting killed will be higher, then for LUPUS owning tier 8, how? Use APCR lol i always pen IS3 / LOWE or VKA sometime could pen tier 9 AMX50B lol with my normal AP but for other tank like T32, T34 and IS6 i tend to use APCR for more pen.



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View PostNishizumi_AnkoSP, on 29 June 2017 - 06:34 AM, said:

As a usual sentence say a OP tank only stand behind the Operator not the tank itself, anyway LUPUS is a balance tank not OP in tier 6/7 it just armour and firepower being overpowered a little but if you met a decent player vs a LUPUS, Chances of LUPUS getting killed will be higher, then for LUPUS owning tier 8, how? Use APCR lol i always pen IS3 / LOWE or VKA sometime could pen tier 9 AMX50B lol with my normal AP but for other tank like T32, T34 and IS6 i tend to use APCR for more pen.

Agree I also think it's not OP, buy really good against certain tanks.


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Hmm I actually have lots of garage slots


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View PostDwarfnz, on 28 June 2017 - 06:43 PM, said:

Having slugged it out up to tier 6 I was horrified to face the Lupus (a tier 7 monster when facing it in a lower tier tank) in my ARL 44, a tank that Bushka claims has tier 8-like penetration, only to find my shells bouncing harmlessly off the Lupus' armour.  I have had similar problems with the Helsing.  Here's a thought.  If you absolutely MUST have fantasy tanks in your game, then set up a separate league for them to play in. Other games do so for those who want to play with fantasy or "exotic" weapons. It is seriously unfair "matchmaking" to expect tier 6 historical tanks to go up against any of the tier 7 fantasy tanks. It is not that hard to set up a separate section for the fantasy tanks. 

It's probably because you haven't fully upgraded your ARL, it has the same gun as the AMX M4 45 and with the AMX I have 2 out dpmed Lupus(es) under my belt.


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Funny people always say it's the player and not the tank. When we suggest a tank is somewhat OP, we are assuming 2 equally skill players fighting each other in similar tank type and style.

 

Lupus has front turret strength of KV-3 (maybe even bouncier with it's odd shape), similar speed and HP/T of IS, Alpha of 400, Aim Time of AMX, and it has 12 degrees of gun depression.  For those who don't know, the mighty tier 7 "Comet" has 12 degrees of gun depression.  This tier 7 HT tank has armor, alpha, speed, mobility (good terrain resistance stats), aim time, gun depression, and worst, I don't even know where the damn ammo rack is on this ugly tank.

 

If you see this tank hulls down over a small hill or side-scrapping at the perfect angle, don't even waste your time, just relocate.  Assuming your HT can move faster than the Lupus, which most won't. Combination of Speed and Alpha can already be deadly in current Blitz's small map meta, but now it has gun depression, mobility to flank, and also able to side-scrape like the boss with crazy OP tracks eating up all the incoming shells.  No, I would not want to fight this tank face-to-face if I were in a HT.

 

For those who say to out-DPM it in a MT/LT, well, Lupus is no slouch @ 1838 DPM. Assuming all your shots pens and you don't get hit with module damage (or even ammo rack) by 120mm gun while trying to out-DPM this tank.  Lupus side armor are more vulnerable, but then again, which good player exposes their side for you to shoot at.

 

I would say, save Lupus last or wolf-pack it when it's alone... or else, pray it's a n-o-o-b player.



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View PostNishizumi_AnkoSP, on 29 June 2017 - 04:04 AM, said:

As a usual sentence say a OP tank only stand behind the Operator not the tank itself, anyway LUPUS is a balance tank not OP in tier 6/7 it just armour and firepower being overpowered a little but if you met a decent player vs a LUPUS, Chances of LUPUS getting killed will be higher, then for LUPUS owning tier 8, how? Use APCR lol i always pen IS3 / LOWE or VKA sometime could pen tier 9 AMX50B lol with my normal AP but for other tank like T32, T34 and IS6 i tend to use APCR for more pen.

 

You are wrong. 

 

And BTW what more a tank needs if it armour and firepower is a bit op? 



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View PostVV6_9487, on 29 June 2017 - 01:27 PM, said:

Funny people always say it's the player and not the tank. When we suggest a tank is somewhat OP, we are assuming 2 equally skill players fighting each other in similar tank type and style.

 

Agreed. If it were the player and not the tank, we would not see certain tanks having significantly higher win-rates than others. 



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View PostJoy_127, on 29 June 2017 - 03:44 AM, said:

 

You are wrong. 

 

And BTW what more a tank needs if it armour and firepower is a bit op? 

 

I am sure i am not wrong.




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