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Poll: Should Helsing Be Nerfed? (46 members have cast votes)

Should It Be NERFED?

  1. I don't have a Helsing and Yes, I think it should be nerfed (23 votes [52.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 52.27%

  2. I don't have a Helsing and No, I think it's balanced (12 votes [27.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  3. I Do have a Helsing and I think it should be nerfed (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. I Do have a Helsing and I think it is balanced (7 votes [15.91%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.91%

  5. My Tog is more interesting. (2 votes [4.55%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

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xXYoloNoobSwagXx #21 Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:12 AM

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View PostPANPAKAPAAAN2427, on 18 November 2017 - 04:27 AM, said:

My Vindicator enjoys planting a HEAT shell on both of them and watching their HP's evaporate.

I've seen more Helsings on the battlefield then the Dracula. 

My go too tactic on dealing with the Helsing:

Tactic no 1. Run away!

Tactic no 2. Charge the Helsing aided by one or more allies.

Tactic no 3. CoD/ Flank the Helsing in a high speed high DPM tank. 

I chose any of these tactics depending on what tank I am driving in when I meet one on the battlefield.  

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PatriarchySS1 #22 Posted 23 November 2017 - 04:00 AM

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Like mist td's it has a very slow turrent transverse... prob the easiest thing to exploit against it...

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Ronnel_999 #23 Posted 23 November 2017 - 09:07 AM

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Sorry but I don't believe in balance especially in war and since this is a war game, nothing should be balanced.

A long-long time ago, lol... there was an old guy who saw some action during his younger days but loves playing Blitz now... When they were about to be deployed and intel says that EX: 5 baddies with handguns and maybe one or two M-16 that they will be moving in two squads with M203, M60 LMG, plus a sweeper and if they were lucky then maybe with an APC with 50 cal. as back up. War is not fair and will never be so I think that if games like to get close to the real deal, then the one who has a bigger stick can whack the guy with a smaller stick... until the guy with the smaller stick gets his bigger stick. The guy with the smaller stick is not totally useless because he can always use his guerrilla / ninja fighting skills to bash the good guys (by flanking, cammo, sniping, etc and also by pressing "2" for prammo). Bringing balance too much makes the game more unrealistic but this is just my honest opinion. 

This is also why I really love to see more OP premium tanks in the future just to bump the skill level up a bit more so it doesn't feel so vanilla. 
I don't have the Drac nor the Hellsing but whenever I had a chance to destroy one in battle, it's like "ohw ya!, who'se your daddy!!!".

Edited by Ronnel_999, 23 November 2017 - 09:07 AM.


Diamond114 #24 Posted 23 November 2017 - 09:09 AM

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View PostRonnel_999, on 23 November 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

Sorry but I don't believe in balance especially in war and since this is a war game, nothing should be balanced.

A long-long time ago, lol... there was an old guy who saw some action during his younger days but loves playing Blitz now... When they were about to be deployed and intel says that EX: 5 baddies with handguns and maybe one or two M-16 that they will be moving in two squads with M203, M60 LMG, plus a sweeper and if they were lucky then maybe with an APC with 50 cal. as back up. War is not fair and will never be so I think that if games like to get close to the real deal, then the one who has a bigger stick can whack the guy with a smaller stick... until the guy with the smaller stick gets his bigger stick. The guy with the smaller stick is not totally useless because he can always use his guerrilla / ninja fighting skills to bash the good guys (by flanking, cammo, sniping, etc and also by pressing "2" for prammo). Bringing balance too much makes the game more unrealistic but this is just my honest opinion. 

This is also why I really love to see more OP premium tanks in the future just to bump the skill level up a bit more so it doesn't feel so vanilla. 
I don't have the Drac nor the Hellsing but whenever I had a chance to destroy one in battle, it's like "ohw ya!, who'se your daddy!!!".

Interesting view point there.


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Ronnel_999 #25 Posted 23 November 2017 - 07:22 PM

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View PostDiamond114, on 23 November 2017 - 09:09 AM, said:

Interesting view point there.

 

Since you have commented....

Here is another of my "weird" view point about the game and about the players and how I see it compared to the real thing. Everybody hates seeing a noob driving in his new shiny tank in tier 8 and acting like a total stu-pid and dying early doing zero damage to the reds. We've all seen this and we've all raged about this too in some form or another. The truth is that in real life (depending on the nation and depending on the urgency of the situation) that most solders thrown in the front line only have their "Basic Training" to rely upon. This can be soldiers, this can be militia, this can be guerrillas, this can be insurgents and this can also be the ordinary Joe who just picked up a weapon from a dead soldier and was off to war because of the circumstances, meaning that not all who have participated in war are unicums and that the majority will always be the normal noob. Even the specialists in the Forces are only in small numbers compared to the majority of the normal foot soldier. These specialists are the unicums in war but the thing is if it's a well established Force that the "unicums" will be reassigned to another department like teaching new soldiers, being drill instructors, or be pulled in the office because their brains are needed for planning, or they got promoted to a much higher rank, etc. I hardly know a specialist (unicum) who is in his late 30's still in the front line and still digging ditches and laying out sand bags. So if we look at it in the game, I think it's very normal to have noobs in all tiers because that's what happens in real life too. There will always be noobs in both team and in all kinds of combat and yes that they are the fresh meat for the grinder. Experienced players may rage because they have a noob in the team again but this is what happens in real life and if we look back in history that we can always see noobs in the front line dying by the thousands. The specialists or the unicums may have "vampired his way out" or maybe he is not even in the front line because with his 15,000 plus battles that he is at the back giving commands and drinking coffee :)

I may sound crazy but this is why I love Blitz because this is the closest thing to the real deal. We have our Noobs (soldiers who hardly finished Basic Training or the normal civilian who barely know how to shoot a gun), we have our AFKs (AWOL), we have our trolls (guys for Court Martial), we have our SOS spammers, we have our traitors who teaches the reds the location of their teammates, we have our runners,(yolo players) and we have our cowards too... Then we have our normal fighters who bravely fight the front line, we also have the chat spammer (radio operator), and last we have our unicums (the specialists). What I'm trying to say is that if we put to much balance in the game then it wont be this much interesting and will be far different from the real deal. This is why it's so hard to get a good WN8 in this game especially if you are playing solo is because even with the best tanks, best equipments and spamming prammo that there is no guarantee that RNGeesus will be shining his light upon us. No matter how skilled we are, that there will always be dummies, morons and stu-pids in our team. Or worst, that maybe we belong to the moron group and we just can't admit it yet, lol. 

So Mr. Unicum or Mr wannabe Unicum, please take it easy on the noobs because at your age (battle count), you should be at the back giving orders and not in the front line. If you are still in the front line there are only two reasons why, number 1 is that you are a true specialist and is badly needed even if you are 45 years old. Number 2 is that you are expendable, lol.

And about the guys who rage about premium tanks and calling them Gold Noob... Actually these goldies are the ones who keeps WG alive so please don't rage. Money is needed in war and so is with WG. If you look at a normal issued firearm, you will see that it's stock, some use it as stock and some will do some mods. Others will spend lots of dineros just to get it well tuned (equal to premium tank)... maybe adding stabilizer, add balancer, re-work the gas chamber, do work on the ejector, change the spring, change the trigger pull, use better firing pin, better aiming sight, add a fancy tactical grip, etc. or get it nikel or blued (cammo for tanks).

I don't know if I made some sense but I'm sure people who have served knows what I'm trying to say...
Put too much balance in the game then it's just like an dumb arcade driving game where all the cars are the same but with different colors only. Man that's boring!

Edited by Ronnel_999, 23 November 2017 - 07:29 PM.


xXYoloNoobSwagXx #26 Posted 25 November 2017 - 02:56 AM

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But the elite drove the newest tank. The militia and such will only get tanks equivalent to tier v.

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GoBack2Tier1 #27 Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:37 PM

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God I couldn't even start on how much I'm starting to hate this thing and the Crapula

come on, this tank is spectacular at tier 7. Even if it has a slow turret and crap all hull traverse, it still does exceptionally well as a replacement for an IS. Heck I might even add that it's objectively better than the IS since it's a smaller target, has more dpm, has a better turret... yada yada yada... 

This tank is quite unfair to play against, especially if you're driving something like a Tiger 1. But then again, what kind of idiot would want to be in a 1v1 situation against any tank in something as soft as a tiger 1. Still, as a psuedo heavy, it does it's job a bit too well... Not as strong as the T29 (the best tier 7 HT of... all time) but it's quite close to the T29 that it's scary...

However, the tank is not all "hurr durr, wm1 and well win! Angling, don't know what's that but I'll keep pressing gold ammo and it works!" like the dumbtype 5 premium clicker in PC. It has it's weakspots which is the sides, if you caught his track, he's as good as dead and the lower glacis can be hit if the commander is dumb enough to not hide it. But then again, when do we see Helsing drivers that make complete Neanderthals out of themselves?

 


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xXYoloNoobSwagXx #28 Posted 30 November 2017 - 02:43 PM

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ITS A FKIN TEAM GAME!  JUST STOP WHINING YOU POTATOES! GO TO GULAG! 

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View PostxXYolo_Noob_DriverXx, on 17 November 2017 - 08:24 PM, said:

175 pen. Against tier 8, a bit hopeless... 

 

Helsing is not the only Teir7 td with 175 pen. 

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Love my Helsing just as it is!!!

Can not pen some tanks but who cares!!

Pens enough to make life fun!!

It has the same "balance" in T6 (where it does good dmg) as it does in T8 (where quite often slaughtered)

2 T6 agaist Helsing means bye Helsing - if they play right

So NO nerf needed - unless its to help me beat DRACULA!!!  ( Can occasionally beat)



anonym_5FC80yzIaxyO #31 Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:12 PM

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Quite tough to say but it thing it not should be nerf base on my encounter in my ARL 44 a good angling front do it just fine and I get to fires at least 2 shots and angling again

So no nerf :3

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