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Neb10k #21 Posted 01 May 2017 - 10:19 PM

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No, not spare parts per battles in tank. Too restrictive.

If you've played a thousand games in IS6 before -1:+1 mm, why go back? You might want the slots on defender or glacial.

Per battle.

There should be more spare parts per equipment in garage. The 7 year grind example is a good demonstration of this.

Lord_Melchett #22 Posted 01 May 2017 - 11:21 PM

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Good post, Maddox.  Summarises the pros and cons well.

JK_STONE #23 Posted 02 May 2017 - 03:13 AM

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+1 Maddox, great summary... thanks for taking time to draft/edit and write-up this much information.

 

I don't think WG do much math about the 'challenges' faced by existing player base.  With simple math and stats, they could easily understand what some of the pain points are, but I don't know... maybe WG Dev are masochist and they want to see us suffer while 'enjoying' the grind for new equipment slots.

 

As for slowing down the progression of new players and forcing them to learn the weakness of the tanks being a 'positive', I like that concept, but it's a bit idealistic. Good players care about stats and improving skills (before and after R3.8), so yes, they will care about fully equipping tanks and figuring out strength/weakness before moving to the next tank.  But these days, new player base has little patience (or intelligence), and most of them don't care to learn.  Equipment change will have little to no impact to these new generation of players. They probably don't care about fully equipping their tank at all.

 

Also, no one is going to grind 24x7x365 for 7 years... EXCEPT for BOTs.  I doubt WG foresee or care to do anything about it.  For years WG have ignored us on the subject of AFK/BOT, now that equipment is being revamp totally and yet we still don't hear anything on AFK/BOT.  AFK/BOT does more damage to gaming experience/quality than lack of equipment variety.  

Maybe I should learn more about How to BOT?!? :hiding:

 

 


Edited by JK_STONE, 02 May 2017 - 03:13 AM.

 

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Perfidious_Albion #24 Posted 02 May 2017 - 03:46 AM

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Really good Maddox, I give you a +10 (and so different from the M60 comments!!!!!!)

InvisibleShadow #25 Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:58 AM

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Another good read, another +1

The person who needs 7.71 years to fully equip might as well quit, plus he can't play every single day and your calculations were based on best-case scenario...

agree that WG should increase spare parts compensation 


Edited by InvisibleShadow, 02 May 2017 - 06:01 AM.

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B_SaltyMadd #26 Posted 02 May 2017 - 06:29 AM

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View PostPerfidious_Albion, on 02 May 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

Really good Maddox, I give you a +10 (and so different from the M60 comments!!!!!!)

 

well different from M60, I kinda support WG's decision on this overhaul......

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B_SaltyMadd #27 Posted 03 May 2017 - 03:14 PM

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I guess we didn't made any impact towards the equipment change, But this is WG's game, let them have the decision. 

I already decided what to do after the update drops. How about you?

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View PostMaddoxkkm, on 03 May 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

I guess we didn't made any impact towards the equipment change, But this is WG's game, let them have the decision. 

I already decided what to do after the update drops. How about you?

 

I will see does my friend still asking me to platoon him (once in a blue moon), if no then I'm basically dropping this game

Since WG has gone really wild, as well as player are getting more toxic


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B_SaltyMadd #29 Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:13 AM

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View PostCALVINJJ, on 03 May 2017 - 11:23 PM, said:

 

I will see does my friend still asking me to platoon him (once in a blue moon), if no then I'm basically dropping this game

Since WG has gone really wild, as well as player are getting more toxic

 

really sad to see them risking throwing the whole existing playerbase out of the window, just for a bit more revenue..........

 

I am no professional game designer but at least i still know how to not let players rage quit a game that hard.......


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CALVINJJ #30 Posted 04 May 2017 - 01:01 PM

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View PostMaddoxkkm, on 04 May 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

 

really sad to see them risking throwing the whole existing playerbase out of the window, just for a bit more revenue..........

 

I am no professional game designer but at least i still know how to not let players rage quit a game that hard.......

 

Hmm, update isn't as bad as I thought

Any tank that isn't your favorite, 1st roll+ 2nd roll 1st equipment will do

Only fully equip your favorite tanks will do, since I got used to grind tanks without any equipment anyway

gun rammer and gun laying drive should be enough for me to drive around


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View PostCALVINJJ, on 04 May 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

 

Hmm, update isn't as bad as I thought

Any tank that isn't your favorite, 1st roll+ 2nd roll 1st equipment will do

Only fully equip your favorite tanks will do, since I got used to grind tanks without any equipment anyway

gun rammer and gun laying drive should be enough for me to drive around

 

well To be honest the third row only Refined gun or Vertical stabilizer are the only equipment that are worth equipping.

 

so that's 8 days saved.


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No WG staff read this thread? 

*sigh


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CALVINJJ #33 Posted 05 May 2017 - 01:59 PM

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View PostMaddoxkkm, on 05 May 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

No WG staff read this thread? 

*sigh

 

Because they can't see 'players', they only can see 'money'

To make thing worse, they can only see 'money icon' which is not real money

They add a lot of stuff that doesn't really get attraction from players to spend on it, but making players to quit


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Variety is always good in this game I agree. However as you said, timer is bad. And I blame you all for what game this is now. Back then when wg wanted to over-complicate the game with all those certificate, consumables, badges bs I've raged about it and you all ignore it. Now it has gone to this stage and only now you start whining?

Soon there're gonna be "fuel system" of pay 2 play.

Btw, maybe the mods are putting up a strike or something?



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View PostNexNebula, on 06 May 2017 - 02:28 AM, said:

Variety is always good in this game I agree.

 

Only, there isn't really much variety in the new system. Everyone I talk to is picking the same equipment. So far, I have equipped heavies, mediums, lights and TDs all with the same option in every slot. Perhaps it's the types of these classes I choose to play but they kind of sold it as lots of interesting combinations. I don't believe there are. SK8XTRM mentioned in his video that there are pretty much obvious choices for almost all the slots. I agree.


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