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Neb10k #1 Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:21 AM

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The Helsing TD is overpowered.

 

Having speed and a good gun and good front armor is too much. One should go. My suggestion is the armor.

 

At the moment it is equivalent to a Borsig in terms of gun power per tier, but is heaps faster and really hard to land shots on turret or front armor. "Real tanks" like the tiger I and Panther just get smashed, especially by 2x helsing platoons. 

 

 

 

 



Wraith598 #2 Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:58 AM

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all cartoon tanks must be Nerfed.,reduce Hellsing DPM.,its too OP with that kind of Reload

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Oddball__ #3 Posted 12 January 2017 - 01:53 AM

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Lately I've found the Helsing to be a little OP and very annoying. Everytime I see one now it's driven by someone competent and they fire prammo. In turn I have to load prammo and fire on them to even things out. When you are a tier 6 facing one, it is usually very red, even at tier 7 for many tanks. I remember people talked about how the 2nd shell a Helsing shot would often either miss or not pen...that never seems to be the case. It needs something to level it out. A Dracula is good, but if you fire a shell into it you will do damage and if he hits you it's around 200~220. If you fire on a Helsing, you may or may not penetrate and if it hits you you're looking at 400 HP gone. The think is a TD, it should be a little more fragile. You can leave everything as is, but drop its frontal armor a bit.

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I think the Drac needs to be nerfed as well, maybe ROF or DMG. 

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ChocolateRiderX #5 Posted 12 January 2017 - 02:10 AM

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it is super OP

 

turret is super hard to hit



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And if it is really hard to one shot with a KV2 then it is OP! lol

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Gandalf_Stormcrow #7 Posted 12 January 2017 - 02:21 AM

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What we need is a "No Fantasy Tanks" option in Settings that will put us in a battle queue with "historical" tanks only. Oh, to dream. 

Diamond114 #8 Posted 12 January 2017 - 02:48 AM

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Just don't touch my Edelweiss and I'll be happy. Edelweiss is fine as it is.

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View PostDiamond114, on 12 January 2017 - 08:33 AM, said:

Just don't touch my Edelweiss and I'll be happy. Edelweiss is fine as it is.

 

it may be, a helsing a can kill a tier 6 tank in 10 secs. double-shot -> ram -> double-shot dead

anthonylei01 #10 Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:08 AM

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it won't be rebalanced, WG can only touch the soft stats, like the way they nerf the Defender

 

This TD is only OP in the right hands..... and due to the small hit point pulls, it can be taken out pretty quickly. 



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View Postanthonylei01, on 12 January 2017 - 03:08 AM, said:

it won't be rebalanced, WG can only touch the soft stats, like the way they nerf the Defender

 

This TD is only OP in the right hands..... and due to the small hit point pulls, it can be taken out pretty quickly. 

 

what happen to is3d? i think it still OP

Diamond114 #12 Posted 12 January 2017 - 05:17 AM

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View PostChocolateRiderX, on 12 January 2017 - 10:22 AM, said:

 

what happen to is3d? i think it still OP

 

It still is if it has friends to back him up especially during reloads. But catch him all by his ronesome (again, especially during reloads, preferably if you can keep situational awareness of how many shots he had left) or the guy driving it either was a piss-poor shot or just plain unlucky, suddenly I fear IS-3/6 more than this guy.

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View PostNeb10k, on 12 January 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

The Helsing TD is overpowered.

 

Having speed and a good gun and good front armor is too much. One should go. My suggestion is the armor.

 

At the moment it is equivalent to a Borsig in terms of gun power per tier, but is heaps faster and really hard to land shots on turret or front armor. "Real tanks" like the tiger I and Panther just get smashed, especially by 2x helsing platoons. 

 

 

 

 

 

I always tend to agree with you but it just occurred to me now that Wargaming apparently "pledge" to never nerf premium tanks (although they will buff them). Their approach to "mistakes" has instead been to remove them from the store. I don't know how true this is (I admit to not paying attention to every post) but if it is then we are pretty much stuck with them. 



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View PostGandalf_Stormcrow, on 12 January 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

 

I always tend to agree with you but it just occurred to me now that Wargaming apparently "pledge" to never nerf premium tanks (although they will buff them). Their approach to "mistakes" has instead been to remove them from the store. I don't know how true this is (I admit to not paying attention to every post) but if it is then we are pretty much stuck with them. 

It is true, obvious example is the keni 'otsu' mistake where wg pull it out from store after they realize the mistake made in reload time



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View PostDiamond114, on 12 January 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

Just don't touch my Edelweiss and I'll be happy. Edelweiss is fine as it is.

 

your Edelweeb is fine.,since its a Sponsor tanks

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mrcg82_T55 #16 Posted 12 January 2017 - 05:55 AM

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as for me helsing is OP on his tier or below but pretty much under power when fight a tier above..but still for experience player the 2nd shot is pretty much 70% hit. the only tank i fear when drive this tank is another helsing on the red..and for its damage per game avg credit is awesome..50k for normal and 80k for good game, of course that value after tax

jl2015 #17 Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:38 AM

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Helsing is not OP at all. It is not good at medium range. And it is horrible at long range. Just keep your distance or keep moving, it will miss alot of shots.


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View Postjl2015, on 12 January 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Helsing is not OP at all. It is not good at medium range. And it is horrible at long range. Just keep your distance or keep moving, it will miss alot of shots.

 

And that's the thing - good players get up close fast and personal, land both shells, then move fast, repeat, for big damage. The good players I've seen work from range stay hull down and my Tiger I really struggles to pen their turret (the better players are also wriggly little rats). 

 

But I don't expect WG will nerf them given their origin in an event, but hopefully they'll try not to repeat the travesty. 


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anthonylei01 #19 Posted 12 January 2017 - 09:43 AM

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View PostChocolateRiderX, on 12 January 2017 - 11:22 AM, said:

 

what happen to is3d? i think it still OP

 

WG changed the gun handling stats, giving u a slightly worse accuracy...... 

 

WG never released any official statement on this balance change but many players, including me, experienced the change in gun handling....



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View Postanthonylei01, on 12 January 2017 - 05:43 PM, said:

 

WG changed the gun handling stats, giving u a slightly worse accuracy...... 

 

WG never released any official statement on this balance change but many players, including me, experienced the change in gun handling....

 

so that players won't rage at WG when they spent so much time in getting the tank

 

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